QF L/H accomodation possible changes
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QF L/H accomodation possible changes
Two big rumours doing the traps at the moment is that QF L/H cabin crew will be moving out of the Millennium in LHR.Apparently the hotel has given the company 90 days notice that they are giving the contract the flick.
The other rumour is that L/H cabin crew might (and it changes with the wind) be slipping back in New York.
There are also rumblings about the hotel in LA but who knows with that one.Action Jackson has just returned from LA so we will have to wait and see .
The other rumour is that L/H cabin crew might (and it changes with the wind) be slipping back in New York.
There are also rumblings about the hotel in LA but who knows with that one.Action Jackson has just returned from LA so we will have to wait and see .
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It seems we will be operating to JFK daily come years end.
One would think that it would make sense to have cabin crew slip 2-1-1.
Also a strong rumour of another package..........
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news...971101180.html
One would think that it would make sense to have cabin crew slip 2-1-1.
Also a strong rumour of another package..........
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news...971101180.html
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Thanks speedbirdhouse for your info.
The rumour I have heard is that a certain cc manager is trying to make a name for himself with the accomodation contracts.Perhaps he is trying to get brownie points with the new owners however all he is doing is annoying hotels.....
The rumour I have heard is that a certain cc manager is trying to make a name for himself with the accomodation contracts.Perhaps he is trying to get brownie points with the new owners however all he is doing is annoying hotels.....
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LG has made a statement in regard the SMH article today on the QF cabin crew website. The VR info is also on the website.
Personally I hate the word surplus and I think it is very deceptive when the company are actively recruiting UK and NZ based crew and casuals within short haul.
The FAAA issued the following notices today.
11 April 2007
Attention all Qantas Long Haul Flight Attendants
SHAME SHAME SHAME
In what can only be described as a shameless exercise in the further destruction of full time flight attendant positions, Qantas Cabin Crew management have announced further redundancies of full time Long Haul cabin crew.
The announcement today follows on from over 1200 full time jobs being made redundant since 2000, and a redundancy of approximately 400 Long Haul cabin crew positions last year and 120 short haul positions at the same time.
This occurs at a time when there have been two Qantas profit upgrades announced since the APA bid for Qantas was announced late last year.
The continual replacement of Australian full time jobs for lesser paid overseas workers and the casualisation of the flight attendant role is a direct result of corporate greed and a total lack of respect for the flight attendant workforce in Australia by Qantas Management.
Whilst the rhetoric runs thick like syrup from management about how we are valued and how great our contribution is, the reality is in stark contrast.
The exact numbers to be made redundant at this stage are unknown. The Company has confirmed that this will be a voluntary redundancy.
The fact that the Divisional Flying Agreement was designed to manage surpluses and avoid redundancy is disregarded by the current management.
The outsourcing of Cabin Crew management jobs to Bangkok and Auckland would be a good start in any cost reduction exercise. Given the amount of time they spend with our members the jobs could just as easily be done remotely.
We will update you further when we have further information. Despite our outrage at this contempt for crew, we will continue to act responsibly to protect full time employment in Australia.
Written by Steven Reed President International Division
and authorised by Michael Mijatov Secretary International Division
11 April 2007
Attention all Qantas Long Haul Flight Attendants
MEDIA SPECULATION ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE LONG HAUL DIVISION
The Sydney Morning Herald today contains an article written by Scott Rochfort and Danny John. Paragraph two of that article is as follows:-
The revised APA offer comes amid speculation the carrier is set to test the nerve of unions by preparing a massive culling of its 3000 long haul cabin crew workers.
Rumours of further redundancies have been rife for some time. Yesterday the Company asked to meet with senior officials of the FAAA on Thursday morning 12th April 2007.
Last night the Company was not prepared to speculate on the rumours but indicated that they would be in a position to discuss the matter on Thursday morning.
Until that meeting takes place, the FAAA is not in a position to discuss the matter with members, nor in a position to speculate.
What we can clearly state is that while there is massive overseas contingent of cabin crew and casuals employed in a variety of positions, the FAAA will not stand by idly and see full time employment eroded.
We have been indicating to crew for some considerable time that the provisions of the Workplace Relations Act in terms of its operating restructuring facility are potentially very damaging for full time workers in Australia, not the least being full time Long Haul cabin Crew.
We will write to you as soon as any confirmed information comes to hand.
Written by Steven Reed President International Division
and authorised by Michael Mijatov Secretary International Division
Personally I hate the word surplus and I think it is very deceptive when the company are actively recruiting UK and NZ based crew and casuals within short haul.
The FAAA issued the following notices today.
11 April 2007
Attention all Qantas Long Haul Flight Attendants
SHAME SHAME SHAME
In what can only be described as a shameless exercise in the further destruction of full time flight attendant positions, Qantas Cabin Crew management have announced further redundancies of full time Long Haul cabin crew.
The announcement today follows on from over 1200 full time jobs being made redundant since 2000, and a redundancy of approximately 400 Long Haul cabin crew positions last year and 120 short haul positions at the same time.
This occurs at a time when there have been two Qantas profit upgrades announced since the APA bid for Qantas was announced late last year.
The continual replacement of Australian full time jobs for lesser paid overseas workers and the casualisation of the flight attendant role is a direct result of corporate greed and a total lack of respect for the flight attendant workforce in Australia by Qantas Management.
Whilst the rhetoric runs thick like syrup from management about how we are valued and how great our contribution is, the reality is in stark contrast.
The exact numbers to be made redundant at this stage are unknown. The Company has confirmed that this will be a voluntary redundancy.
The fact that the Divisional Flying Agreement was designed to manage surpluses and avoid redundancy is disregarded by the current management.
The outsourcing of Cabin Crew management jobs to Bangkok and Auckland would be a good start in any cost reduction exercise. Given the amount of time they spend with our members the jobs could just as easily be done remotely.
We will update you further when we have further information. Despite our outrage at this contempt for crew, we will continue to act responsibly to protect full time employment in Australia.
Written by Steven Reed President International Division
and authorised by Michael Mijatov Secretary International Division
11 April 2007
Attention all Qantas Long Haul Flight Attendants
MEDIA SPECULATION ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE LONG HAUL DIVISION
The Sydney Morning Herald today contains an article written by Scott Rochfort and Danny John. Paragraph two of that article is as follows:-
The revised APA offer comes amid speculation the carrier is set to test the nerve of unions by preparing a massive culling of its 3000 long haul cabin crew workers.
Rumours of further redundancies have been rife for some time. Yesterday the Company asked to meet with senior officials of the FAAA on Thursday morning 12th April 2007.
Last night the Company was not prepared to speculate on the rumours but indicated that they would be in a position to discuss the matter on Thursday morning.
Until that meeting takes place, the FAAA is not in a position to discuss the matter with members, nor in a position to speculate.
What we can clearly state is that while there is massive overseas contingent of cabin crew and casuals employed in a variety of positions, the FAAA will not stand by idly and see full time employment eroded.
We have been indicating to crew for some considerable time that the provisions of the Workplace Relations Act in terms of its operating restructuring facility are potentially very damaging for full time workers in Australia, not the least being full time Long Haul cabin Crew.
We will write to you as soon as any confirmed information comes to hand.
Written by Steven Reed President International Division
and authorised by Michael Mijatov Secretary International Division
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Well here goes the sale of Australian jobs .Even with the company making record profits and forecasts of even more the company has decided to get rid of more Australian jobs....This is what the takeover is all about...
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The time to play nicely has finished.
As the FAAA has said .......SHAME
The FAAA has to start putting out media releases about the company and the loss of Australian jobs....
As the FAAA has said .......SHAME
The FAAA has to start putting out media releases about the company and the loss of Australian jobs....
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If it was any other industry the media would be all over it, however due to the QF advertising budget, sadly I dont think it would get much attention unless of course you saw qantas staff marching in the street for the protection of our employment which wouldnt happen either because we are all so divided you wouldnt even get a decent turnout. Lets see what action the FAAA takes, hopefully both divisions of the union can unite on this issue if not anything else.
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Luckily this has happened before the Federal elction.Johnny will not be pleased....
Now is the time to ring your friendly neighbourhood coalition member and tell him/her that they are going to get at least one less vote.
I guess it does not matter much which hotel we are staying at now because of the VR package.
Now is the time to ring your friendly neighbourhood coalition member and tell him/her that they are going to get at least one less vote.
I guess it does not matter much which hotel we are staying at now because of the VR package.
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Just a question... what can the unions do about redundancies ? it seems to me that qantas has offered (or forced) redundancies over the years and still they have always continued to employ new people both within australia and overseas. how do we stop them giving our jobs away ? will a march in disgust do us any good ? if not what will ? what should we be asking or demanding the faaa do for its members ?
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difficult
i must say there are no easy fixes for the faaa. given the new industrial laws it is an uphill battle. however not all is lost. more then ever solidarity is the key.
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regionalguy...As I said there is a Federal election this year.Time to start ringing the politicians and the paper to mention the loss of Australian jobs...
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The package
Having read this comment from a certain manager's letter regarding VR
"We are now in a position to offer a limited number of voluntary redundancies in order to ensure we have the right balance of sustainable surplus management solutions going forward"
Enough to make you want to take the package!!
"We are now in a position to offer a limited number of voluntary redundancies in order to ensure we have the right balance of sustainable surplus management solutions going forward"
Enough to make you want to take the package!!
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It sounds like they have the script writer from Yes Prime Minister.......
They could not have done any better.
Honestly the BS is so deep in there you need a snorkel to breathe when you sign on....
They could not have done any better.
Honestly the BS is so deep in there you need a snorkel to breathe when you sign on....
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well....it just could be time to bail.
I almost took it last time.
I'm off to see the accountant on Friday. I've had an absolute gutful of this airline--------------an airline I was once very proud to call Qantas.
Now, its just a ramshackle lump of metal with no heart or soul.
The "Management" here are just a gaggle of Faceless androids more concerned with hiearchial power than any of the people that run this outfit on a daily basis and get "jack" recognition for it!!
I'm still nauseous from that AFR review on Captain Qantas
I almost took it last time.
I'm off to see the accountant on Friday. I've had an absolute gutful of this airline--------------an airline I was once very proud to call Qantas.
Now, its just a ramshackle lump of metal with no heart or soul.
The "Management" here are just a gaggle of Faceless androids more concerned with hiearchial power than any of the people that run this outfit on a daily basis and get "jack" recognition for it!!
I'm still nauseous from that AFR review on Captain
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Could'nt have said it better
Stubby Jumbo
Ditto, Ditto & Ditto.........and especially about Captain Jetstar
Also seeing my accountant Friday.......and I bet there'll be many others!!
Shame to see a once proud Australian company well and truly f d
Sir Hudson Fysh would be spinning in his grave at what these turkeys are doing to his company...............RIP Qantas 1920 -- 2007
Ditto, Ditto & Ditto.........and especially about Captain Jetstar
Also seeing my accountant Friday.......and I bet there'll be many others!!
Shame to see a once proud Australian company well and truly f
dSir Hudson Fysh would be spinning in his grave at what these turkeys are doing to his company...............RIP Qantas 1920 -- 2007
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I personalIy can't wait for the time when the AKL base operates it's New Zealand based cabin crew with their own on board managers, independant of Australian based crew.
QF management will be getting exactly what they deserve and they wont know what has hit them.
The chickens are already coming home to roost with reports marked "confidential, not to be copied" being shown to CSMs showing that J/C and Y/C passenger satisfaction levels are down 4% and 6%.
Interesting AND telling that P/C levels have never been higher.
One can only imagine just how bad the surveys have been of late given their historical inability to admit failures of ANY type.
I wonder what has changed of late to cause these worrying trends?
QF management will be getting exactly what they deserve and they wont know what has hit them.
The chickens are already coming home to roost with reports marked "confidential, not to be copied" being shown to CSMs showing that J/C and Y/C passenger satisfaction levels are down 4% and 6%.
Interesting AND telling that P/C levels have never been higher.
One can only imagine just how bad the surveys have been of late given their historical inability to admit failures of ANY type.
I wonder what has changed of late to cause these worrying trends?
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Missed the article in the AFR anyone care to post the link..
Yes you are correct speedbird the sooner they have their own full base the better,
There are a few good ones, but the majority simply dont give a fark and are so difficult to work with, and boy oh boy do they hate QANTAS.
Yes you are correct speedbird the sooner they have their own full base the better,
There are a few good ones, but the majority simply dont give a fark and are so difficult to work with, and boy oh boy do they hate QANTAS.
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It's great...
An Australian company making record profits and with forecasts of perhaps double these profits within a year or two.
They want to get rid of as many Australian employees as possible and replace them with cheap foreign nationals......
These employees that they are dumping are the ones that helped achieve these profits and yet Captain Enema is not happy...
So much for the Spirit of Australia.....
It should be called the Spirit of Corporate Addiction to Bonus'S....
I'll let you work out the acronym for that....
An Australian company making record profits and with forecasts of perhaps double these profits within a year or two.
They want to get rid of as many Australian employees as possible and replace them with cheap foreign nationals......
These employees that they are dumping are the ones that helped achieve these profits and yet Captain Enema is not happy...
So much for the Spirit of Australia.....
It should be called the Spirit of Corporate Addiction to Bonus'S....
I'll let you work out the acronym for that....
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