Super Hornets For RAAF
Why didn't they stop over at Whenuapai? Or would that have been teasing the RNZAF a little too much?
Don't tell me they didn't have the ability to handle a C-17 and DC-10 there.
Don't tell me they didn't have the ability to handle a C-17 and DC-10 there.
To base the ADF on USMC lines doesn't work in the overall sense. USMC aviation for instance is not strategic in anyway. It is focused on CAS, it has no deep strike, SEAD, CAP, Intercept functions which are the domain of the USAF and USN. The USN owns the ships that get the Marines to the drop off point. Every marine a riflemen first does have some merit from their perspective as most marines would be located closer to the action due to the mission type of the marines.
This is not to say that same changes would be good. CT teams as mentioned earlier are a good development for the army. Harder from organisational stand point but for effective from a combat perspective which it what is important, though traditional non integrated tactics also need to be kept up to speed.
This is not to say that same changes would be good. CT teams as mentioned earlier are a good development for the army. Harder from organisational stand point but for effective from a combat perspective which it what is important, though traditional non integrated tactics also need to be kept up to speed.
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Super Hornets - Long Flight to Australia
Published on ASDNews: Mar 24, 2010
(March 24, 2010) -- The historic first flight of Air Force's Super Hornets into their home base, RAAF Amberley, will occur this Friday, 26 March 2010.
Minister for Defence Senator John Faulkner will formally welcome the new aircraft to Australia during a ceremony at Amberley, along with RAAF members, Industry representatives and community leaders.
The F/A-18F Super Hornets are the Air Force's first new air combat aircraft in 25 years.
Five Super Hornets have departed Naval Air Station Lemoore in California after extensive preparations, including acceptance flights and ground tests. While air to air refuelling is occurring, the long journey to Australia involves several stops, including Hawaii and New Zealand..
Air Force is planning to mark the Super Hornet arrival with an escort of F-111s, as the new aircraft fly over Brisbane and Gold Coast on approach to Amberley. The F-111s which have been stalwarts of Australia's air combat fleet will be retired at the end of 2010.
"The Super Hornets represent a major step forward in air combat capability for Australia. Air Force is acquiring 24 multi-role Super Hornets which will provide a bridging capability during the transition to the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter," Senator Faulkner said.
"The Super Hornets are an important acquisition," Minister for Defence Personnel, Materiel and Science, Greg Combet said.
"Air Force, Defence Materiel Organisation, United States Navy, The Boeing Company and their industry partners, General Electric, Northrop Grumman and Raytheon share the credit for this project's success."
Australia's Super Hornets will arrive at RAAF Amberley progressively during 2010 and 2011.
Source : MoD Australia
(March 24, 2010) -- The historic first flight of Air Force's Super Hornets into their home base, RAAF Amberley, will occur this Friday, 26 March 2010.
Minister for Defence Senator John Faulkner will formally welcome the new aircraft to Australia during a ceremony at Amberley, along with RAAF members, Industry representatives and community leaders.
The F/A-18F Super Hornets are the Air Force's first new air combat aircraft in 25 years.
Five Super Hornets have departed Naval Air Station Lemoore in California after extensive preparations, including acceptance flights and ground tests. While air to air refuelling is occurring, the long journey to Australia involves several stops, including Hawaii and New Zealand..
Air Force is planning to mark the Super Hornet arrival with an escort of F-111s, as the new aircraft fly over Brisbane and Gold Coast on approach to Amberley. The F-111s which have been stalwarts of Australia's air combat fleet will be retired at the end of 2010.
"The Super Hornets represent a major step forward in air combat capability for Australia. Air Force is acquiring 24 multi-role Super Hornets which will provide a bridging capability during the transition to the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter," Senator Faulkner said.
"The Super Hornets are an important acquisition," Minister for Defence Personnel, Materiel and Science, Greg Combet said.
"Air Force, Defence Materiel Organisation, United States Navy, The Boeing Company and their industry partners, General Electric, Northrop Grumman and Raytheon share the credit for this project's success."
Australia's Super Hornets will arrive at RAAF Amberley progressively during 2010 and 2011.
Source : MoD Australia
Video of them buzzing along the coast Buzzing Super Hornets arrive - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Nunc est bibendum
Was talking to a colleague from ACG today. The interference by the PMs office in the delivery of these aircraft to Australia has been unbelievable- more so when you consider the hue and cry from the ALP when the then coalition government announced their purchase! 
Amberley-bound F/A-18F Super Hornet will make presence known with a city flyover
The Courier-Mail March 26, 2010 10:25AM
Hornets over Queensland - Super Hornets make their Aust debut
The RAAF's first batch of 24 new Super Hornet jet fighter-bombers will arrive late this month.
RAAF BASE: Five F/A-18F Super Hornets will fly over Brisbane this afternoon on their way to their new home at the Amberley RAAF base. Source: AAP
THE southeast has had some noise this afternoon, with five fighter jets passing 100ft over our skies on their way to their new home at the RAAF Base Amberley.
The F/A-18F Super Hornets began the Australian leg of their journey south of the border and worked their way over the Gold Coast, Brisbane and Ipswich on their way over from the United States.
Workers on the Coast posted video on YouTube of the flyover within minutes.
The $50 million-a-piece Super Hornets are the latest addition to the Australian Defence Force military capability. They will be escorted by a formation of F-111s and a Hawk aircraft.
Many South-East suburbs will have views of the Super Hornets before they arrive at Amberley ahead of a formal homecoming ceremony.
Hornets over Queensland - Super Hornets make their Aust debut
The RAAF's first batch of 24 new Super Hornet jet fighter-bombers will arrive late this month.
RAAF BASE: Five F/A-18F Super Hornets will fly over Brisbane this afternoon on their way to their new home at the Amberley RAAF base. Source: AAP
THE southeast has had some noise this afternoon, with five fighter jets passing 100ft over our skies on their way to their new home at the RAAF Base Amberley.
The F/A-18F Super Hornets began the Australian leg of their journey south of the border and worked their way over the Gold Coast, Brisbane and Ipswich on their way over from the United States.
Workers on the Coast posted video on YouTube of the flyover within minutes.
The $50 million-a-piece Super Hornets are the latest addition to the Australian Defence Force military capability. They will be escorted by a formation of F-111s and a Hawk aircraft.
Many South-East suburbs will have views of the Super Hornets before they arrive at Amberley ahead of a formal homecoming ceremony.
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Spot on Keg,plenty of Flack from desk drivers and the cb bureaucracy.With the delays to the F35,maybe BN got some sound advice.
If only they had ordered a few more C17's.
On Time And On Budget,amazing how well I't can all run when self serving CB muppets are taken out of the process.Now, about those submarines.
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If only they had ordered a few more C17's.
On Time And On Budget,amazing how well I't can all run when self serving CB muppets are taken out of the process.Now, about those submarines.
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Was talking to a colleague from ACG today. The interference by the PMs office in the delivery of these aircraft to Australia has been unbelievable- more so when you consider the hue and cry from the ALP when the then coalition government announced their purchase!
Yet another comment in today's Australian from a "Defence scientist" about how the the Super Hornet isn't as good as the F-111.
Obviously this "Defence scientist" has several thousand fast jet hours to back up this opinion with too
. Come to think about it haven't heard from that other Defence aviation "expert", Carlo Kopp on the subject of late.
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Originally Posted by Courier-Mail
The $50 million-a-piece Super Hornets ...
The big numbers quoted by defence for new equipment include the life of type operating costs as well. Misleading really. Bit like saying a new Holden Commodore [sticker $35K] costs $85K including all running costs for 5 years or so...
The world is now run by accountants and lawyers..
The world is now run by accountants and lawyers..
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So you would rather the taxpayer not know that the new toy they are paying for comes with ongoing expenses?
... a bit like a car salesman selling a 17 y.o. finance for a WRX without telling him that it will cost him $2500+ a year for insurance and another $3500 year for running costs in addition to his finance payments...
... a bit misleading really.
I reckon the 17 y.o. wants to be able to afford to cut chookies in his WRX to impress the ladies, not just look at it in his garage!
So you would rather the taxpayer not know that the new toy they are paying for comes with ongoing expenses?
... a bit like a car salesman selling a 17 y.o. finance for a WRX without telling him that it will cost him $2500+ a year for insurance and another $3500 year for running costs in addition to his finance payments...
... a bit misleading really.
I reckon the 17 y.o. wants to be able to afford to cut chookies in his WRX to impress the ladies, not just look at it in his garage!
Hheheheh...you would be amazed the information an ex-AirTC cadet can still get from friends and colleages who shared a uniform and then moved on to different things.
I understand the US NAVY is still cagey about having the SuperBug sit out in the open at AMB....They must have bought out the entire shadecloth supply from Bunnings to keep the bug from prying eyes...and cameras....and I'm in Melbourne
I understand the US NAVY is still cagey about having the SuperBug sit out in the open at AMB....They must have bought out the entire shadecloth supply from Bunnings to keep the bug from prying eyes...and cameras....and I'm in Melbourne
BB not that really. When a 17 year old buys a WRX they don't mention the running costs...only the purchase price. Do you tell your banker that your new TV cost includes all running costs for the life of it? Different budget..
When the Rhinos replace the Pigs then the Pig costs disappear.
The aircraft are not a $6Bn purchase..
When the Rhinos replace the Pigs then the Pig costs disappear.
The aircraft are not a $6Bn purchase..
Nunc est bibendum
mohikan, I have more than one job. I have many colleagues in such diverse places as ACG, military ATC, ADFA, OTS, naval security, joint communications, CISCON, etc. I also have many colleagues in civilian ATC, general aviation, regional aviation, airlines, various police forces, nurses, chaplains, human resources, public education, IT, mining industry, etc.
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It's been a long-running and expensive saga with the F-111's since they were ordered during the Confrontation. Have photos of bombed up F-4's on display at Amberley in '71, flying the flag, as an interim measure, while we waited for the Pigs problems to be sorted, and now we have another batch of twin-engined, two crew, externally cluttered, fighter-bombers as an interim measure while we wait for the expensive all-singing, all-dancing, single engined, last of the manned defence systems, F35.
Did our F-111's ever drop a bomb in anger, like the Canberras they replaced, or were they just our Deterent, and spent their life training?
It's been a long-running and expensive saga with the F-111's since they were ordered during the Confrontation. Have photos of bombed up F-4's on display at Amberley in '71, flying the flag, as an interim measure, while we waited for the Pigs problems to be sorted, and now we have another batch of twin-engined, two crew, externally cluttered, fighter-bombers as an interim measure while we wait for the expensive all-singing, all-dancing, single engined, last of the manned defence systems, F35.
Did our F-111's ever drop a bomb in anger, like the Canberras they replaced, or were they just our Deterent, and spent their life training?
Did our F-111's ever drop a bomb in anger, like the Canberras they replaced, or were they just our Deterent, and spent their life training?
Mind you, I'd rather see the F35 sidelined entirely, and a 150 F18E/Fs replacing the whole fighter/bomber force.