Virgin Blue to place 7 firm orders for B777-300ER's & 6 options
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Who knows? but if the aircraft aren't arriving til late 2008 it would be a bit early to go recruiting trainers just yet.
Also isn't the VB int company going to be a separate identity from the domestic VB? If so then why do the local VB guys expect to get on them?
No offence intended.
On a cost basis alone employing 140 already qualified and experienced 777
crew would be a huge win for the new start up. If you add up the numbers of expat 777 Australian crews out there, 140 would be a small percentage. Emirates, Brunei, Vietnam, Korean...
Unfortunately for VB I think that even a smaller percentage of them will want to work for what VB int will be prepared to pay but we will see, early days yet..
Also isn't the VB int company going to be a separate identity from the domestic VB? If so then why do the local VB guys expect to get on them?
No offence intended.
On a cost basis alone employing 140 already qualified and experienced 777
crew would be a huge win for the new start up. If you add up the numbers of expat 777 Australian crews out there, 140 would be a small percentage. Emirates, Brunei, Vietnam, Korean...
Unfortunately for VB I think that even a smaller percentage of them will want to work for what VB int will be prepared to pay but we will see, early days yet..
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Originally Posted by ShockWave
If so then why do the local VB guys expect to get on them?
What it didnt state was terms/conditions etc
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Such an odd term, 'first right of refusal'.
Why the emphasis on refusing?
Why not first 'right of acceptance', 'first rights' or just 'youse'll geddit first me ol' matey's'?
Then again, an elegant and more simple word like 'priority' would answer very nicely, indeed.
Sigh...never mind.
The Emirates, Korean, Vietnam and now Royal Brunei Aussie-expat pilots won't give a jot for which words DJ Management are alleged to have used.
Why the emphasis on refusing?
Why not first 'right of acceptance', 'first rights' or just 'youse'll geddit first me ol' matey's'?
Then again, an elegant and more simple word like 'priority' would answer very nicely, indeed.
Sigh...never mind.
The Emirates, Korean, Vietnam and now Royal Brunei Aussie-expat pilots won't give a jot for which words DJ Management are alleged to have used.
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On a cost basis alone employing 140 already qualified and experienced 777 crew would be a huge win for the new start up.
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VB pilots have been told many times (in writing as well) that they will have access to the long-haul flying, and it it is an ongoing EBA issue. Ongoing for how long, who knows??
It seems some people on here have shown their willingness to return, and cut fellow pilots grass no matter what.
With 'protected industrial action' (or whatever its called under Howards Gov) being mooted, and long-haul being a current VB EBA issue - the grass cutters will be known as SC@BS!!
Ironic if some of you were involved in 1989.
It seems some people on here have shown their willingness to return, and cut fellow pilots grass no matter what.
With 'protected industrial action' (or whatever its called under Howards Gov) being mooted, and long-haul being a current VB EBA issue - the grass cutters will be known as SC@BS!!
Ironic if some of you were involved in 1989.
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Oh boy.
Interesting how this one will work out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that every Virgin operation is seperate to the other. There must be enormous pressure to keep it this way with all the rated and current people offshore.
As far as the "contributing to the reduction of salaries" argument goes, I assume this started when the original Virgin Blue started!
Interesting how this one will work out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that every Virgin operation is seperate to the other. There must be enormous pressure to keep it this way with all the rated and current people offshore.
As far as the "contributing to the reduction of salaries" argument goes, I assume this started when the original Virgin Blue started!
ShockWave
Not if their current practice of charging new pilots for their endorsement is continued with the B777 operation. After all they make a profit out of it with the B737 operation.
On a cost basis alone employing 140 already qualified and experienced 777
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Isn't it grand how pilots will see a "management angle" to justify cutting someone elses grass?
Mr Buzzy, isn't that a bit rich coming from you when you once stated that pilots should pay for their endorsements?
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Mr Buzzy, isn't that a bit rich coming from you when you once stated that pilots should pay for their endorsements?
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EBD,
have never said that anyone "should" pay for endorsements.
Fu*ked if I will sit back and watch a kiwi (no disrespect intended) take my jet job in my country just because he is willing to buy an endorsement and I am not.
Don't whinge to me.... Whinge to Howard.
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have never said that anyone "should" pay for endorsements.
Fu*ked if I will sit back and watch a kiwi (no disrespect intended) take my jet job in my country just because he is willing to buy an endorsement and I am not.
Don't whinge to me.... Whinge to Howard.
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I know I've been caned already. But there will be 777 guys from CX (me included) that will return home to grab a spot. CXSUX. Time to come home. I'm only the tip of the iceberg.......
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tryhard,
is this true?
to live in australia, [and this is simple i know] - you will take a pay cut, work your a*se off, operate to decreased T&C's.. all the long line of degradations to your career...
Personal opinion I know. But I thought CX was the pot of gold. Still do.
is this true?
to live in australia, [and this is simple i know] - you will take a pay cut, work your a*se off, operate to decreased T&C's.. all the long line of degradations to your career...
Personal opinion I know. But I thought CX was the pot of gold. Still do.
7 firm orders!
VB are about to order enough aircraft to operate a twice daily service to the US west coast and still have capacity spare. I suspect that they have at least one other destination on their radar.