Capt Al Haynes would be proud of this
Used to pax in a B200 that used to have that happen quite regularly. Charlie at Norfolk Island Airlines and seem to remember KTE got it once or twice. Checked the pics on the current AVweb news and it is exactly the same as experienced. Never saw it happen but flew many hours staring at the screen. Unnerving to look at
Methinks the pilot has not many hours on type to not have witnessed it before. However, if having never seen it before it would surely lead to a panic that your world is about to explode.
AVWEB pictures
Methinks the pilot has not many hours on type to not have witnessed it before. However, if having never seen it before it would surely lead to a panic that your world is about to explode.
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I've had a Cracked or shattered windscreen in a B200 and it was at FL260. Couldn't see out of the screen at all. Ended up landing from the Co pilot's side. (Single Pilot ops)
Followed the POH i.e 1. Altitude maintain 25,000 FT or less, if possible!
2. (a)Pressurisation Controller reset. Suggested pressure diff 2.0-4.6 (4.6 will supply 10,500 FT cabin at 25,000FT)
(b)Before Landing Depressurise cabin prior to touch down.
HH, you sitting on the manual??
The aircraft didn't depressurised even though it was the inner pane. I believe both panes have to fail for that to happen. O2 masks on for all but they weren't required. Bits of glass were breaking off and falling into my lap on approach.
Something else must have really gone bang or to have two panes go at once, thats a bad day!!!
Couldn't see out of the screen at all. Ended up landing from the Co pilot's side. (Single Pilot ops)Followed the POH i.e 1. Altitude maintain 25,000 FT or less, if possible!
2. (a)Pressurisation Controller reset. Suggested pressure diff 2.0-4.6 (4.6 will supply 10,500 FT cabin at 25,000FT)
(b)Before Landing Depressurise cabin prior to touch down.
HH, you sitting on the manual??
The aircraft didn't depressurised even though it was the inner pane. I believe both panes have to fail for that to happen. O2 masks on for all but they weren't required. Bits of glass were breaking off and falling into my lap on approach.
Something else must have really gone bang or to have two panes go at once, thats a bad day!!!
Ahhh. Norfolk Island Airlines........ 
Memories of art galleries and Conquests in ditches at Brissy airport. 
One of the NIA 200s was the highest time King Air in the world with external doublers over the pressure bulk head joints - was that KTE?
Memories of art galleries and Conquests in ditches at Brissy airport. One of the NIA 200s was the highest time King Air in the world with external doublers over the pressure bulk head joints - was that KTE?
That would be IBC, Torres. There was talk at the time that Charlie was going to the Smithsonian because of her hours in service. KTE was purchased by the gent up at TWB. She was the one that pancaked out at Adavale. A sad day that
IBC, IBD, KTE and IBE. that was before all the takeovers and corporate shenanigans. Think they got Advance's kingair as well as all the garbage from Codair. (Bet that name makes you shiver )
IBC, IBD, KTE and IBE. that was before all the takeovers and corporate shenanigans. Think they got Advance's kingair as well as all the garbage from Codair. (Bet that name makes you shiver
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Memories flood back! Wonder where Colin is these days? Well I remember Archie and Adavale. And the Advance accident at Sydney.
And the day the right side pilot window cracked in the "Ghost Flight" VH-SKC, went off like a gun shot, significantly increasing the pukka factor!
Over 20 years ago. Must be getting old!!
Wonder where Colin is these days? Well I remember Archie and Adavale. And the Advance accident at Sydney. And the day the right side pilot window cracked in the "Ghost Flight" VH-SKC, went off like a gun shot, significantly increasing the pukka factor!
Over 20 years ago. Must be getting old!!
KTE was the ex Katie's machine wasn't it.
I had some friends at Coddies' toward the end of their reign, and from what I heard, it was well run and they were very happy there.
The guys were flying Queenairs, Barons, C421, and they had a MU2 & B200 on crosshire.
They obviously had Norfolk bluffed if they bought 'em out!
I had some friends at Coddies' toward the end of their reign, and from what I heard, it was well run and they were very happy there.
The guys were flying Queenairs, Barons, C421, and they had a MU2 & B200 on crosshire.
They obviously had Norfolk bluffed if they bought 'em out!
Capt Fathom, affirm on KTE.
Coddair (that looks better on the spelling) in the early eighties were a bit rough and rugged. However, we were getting flown into some pretty basic strips.
Torres, only knew Newsho and Siffo at NFI. Yep, twenty-seven years ago for me.
Back on the screens. They used to fail so regularly that they were replaced under warranty at the time.
Coddair (that looks better on the spelling) in the early eighties were a bit rough and rugged. However, we were getting flown into some pretty basic strips.
Torres, only knew Newsho and Siffo at NFI. Yep, twenty-seven years ago for me.
Back on the screens. They used to fail so regularly that they were replaced under warranty at the time.
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Also have had a pilot side windshield shatter in a B200.
In this case it was the outer pane, shattered in vertical lines all the way across.
from sitting right behind it, you really cant tell its only one pane that cracked, well except the obvoious that it has not come in on you.
We were at 24000 with heavy ice on the aircraft, the cabin press did start coming up, slowly at first but it became a real rush when the power levers were reduced for the descent. On Oxy from 19000 down to 8000. The cabin got to about 16000. pseudo emerg descent, with the autopilot on.
Had already activated the pax Oxy system, so did not get to see the auto system function.
Same as night hawk, ended up flying and landing from the right hand seat.
Oxy system worked just fine, but it was checked every day on the pre-flight.
Still quite an experiance.
The damage to the B200 in the pics is quite reminicant of a certian C441 in Darwin a few years back.
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In this case it was the outer pane, shattered in vertical lines all the way across.
from sitting right behind it, you really cant tell its only one pane that cracked, well except the obvoious that it has not come in on you.
We were at 24000 with heavy ice on the aircraft, the cabin press did start coming up, slowly at first but it became a real rush when the power levers were reduced for the descent. On Oxy from 19000 down to 8000. The cabin got to about 16000. pseudo emerg descent, with the autopilot on.
Had already activated the pax Oxy system, so did not get to see the auto system function.
Same as night hawk, ended up flying and landing from the right hand seat.
Oxy system worked just fine, but it was checked every day on the pre-flight.
Still quite an experiance.
The damage to the B200 in the pics is quite reminicant of a certian C441 in Darwin a few years back.
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Defenestrator hmmm; very eponymous in this case ya wanna fess up about your whereabouts on the day in question
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Frozen?
I've seen two cracked King Air windscreens, and they are very convincing, but these were not much more than a very expensive nuisance.
Our King Airs had a quick don, demand oxygen system which made oxygen available immediately. But it was necessary to turn the bottle on before takeoff, as it was outside the pressure hull and the mechanism would freeze if at all damp.
Our King Airs had a quick don, demand oxygen system which made oxygen available immediately. But it was necessary to turn the bottle on before takeoff, as it was outside the pressure hull and the mechanism would freeze if at all damp.
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.................amazing story without doubt & yes the B200 is built like a brick Sh*t house but if a planned emerg descent was conducted for whatever reason at the recommended speed of 180 kts, well 181 kts to be exact power idle, approach flap extended, pitch full fine & gear down (that's the limiting speed actually for an emerg descent, the U/C limitations, app flaps limits out at 200 kts) there would be noway that the airframe could sustain that much damage at the above IAS, those poor buggers came down obviously out of control in some format but saved the day in the end, well done, remind me to practice flt with the pitch unavailable!
The shattered screen is a common problem (had one myself at 31000 ft in a B200) but shouldn't under normal circumstances ( if ya can call it that! ) need a descent outside of what's in the airplanes POH under those conditions, still stranger things have happened in aviation, the pilots are above ground & vertical, that's all that counts anyway:-).
capt wally :-)
The shattered screen is a common problem (had one myself at 31000 ft in a B200) but shouldn't under normal circumstances ( if ya can call it that! ) need a descent outside of what's in the airplanes POH under those conditions, still stranger things have happened in aviation, the pilots are above ground & vertical, that's all that counts anyway:-).
capt wally :-)
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Video - 27,000ft and Windshield Failing, Passed Out and survived
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I assume that most of the damage to the a/c was caused by the "free fall" (overspeed & overstress?).
Is there a chance of birdstrike (eagle?) at FL270?
Seems that the King Air is pretty well designed and made to survive the episode, well done Beechcraft and the pilots for a successful emergency landing.
Is there a chance of birdstrike (eagle?) at FL270?
Seems that the King Air is pretty well designed and made to survive the episode, well done Beechcraft and the pilots for a successful emergency landing.
I think anyone who has done anoxia training in a decompression chamber will tell you how quickly you lose the plot at 20,000ft, never mind 27,000.
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Sorry about the link.
This is the link
http://www.kfvs.com/Global/SearchRes...rgency+landing
and select 1. Emergency Landing
This is the link
http://www.kfvs.com/Global/SearchRes...rgency+landing
and select 1. Emergency Landing
