Alaea ?

[QF MAINT OUTSOURCED]

And Why Should They Talk To Non Members Unless Your Are Enquireing About Membership,go Away,they Provide A Service Which You Don't Want To Pay For

[splashman]

I agree, I pay my dues and am represented, if you are not a member, do not expect to receive the benefits of being a member.

This guy should be moaning to the group he pays,

[QF MAINT OUTSOURCED]

i would like to guess he his a member of NO union,i think they use to call his type a SCUB

[PitPin]

All I would like !

Nobody should question the commitment of the councillors .
All I would like to see is the ALAEA provide information about current issues and who you should contact for further info.A functioning updated website and an email would be a start .

[domo]

any up date on the qantas eba,somebody said magement walked out of a meeting

[splashman]

Its amazing how intelligent, relatively well paid, people who have the ability to pass CASA basics, type courses, know how to access a website, and certify for maintenance on aircraft are unable to find a phone number in a phone book, dial it and ask to be informed or put on a E Mail list, nor are they unable to find a union notice board and read it,
A hint,
This forum is not where you will find the answers you seek.
Dial 02 9554 9399,
If the office is unable to help you ask for the mobile number of the exec member covering your state.
It is not a free call, you may have to pay for the call

Its not hard to do

[hawks05]

member of a union

I am a memebr of a union was a member of the weak gutted ALAEA paid my fees to be left out in the cold when ever I had an issue. Thats why we fought and won and finally got a good hard working union at Avalon the AWU, so I do pay fees, so much for being a scab. You lot must be typical ALAEA members who dont stand for jobs, you lot stand for bugger everyone else just pay the over paid LAME more no matter if it costs jobs.
Long Live AWU we stand for jobs not self interest

[hawks05]

Go back to school

Originally Posted by QF MAINT OUTSOURCED

i would like to guess he his a member of NO union,i think they use to call his type a SCUB

Learn to spell its scab not scub, no wonder you get no information from the ALAEA as you would not know how to spell it to find the web site

[domo]

Its amazing how intelligent, relatively well paid, people who have the ability to pass CASA basics, type courses, know how to access a website, and certify for maintenance on aircraft are unable to find a phone number in a phone book, dial it and ask to be informed or put on a E Mail list, nor are they unable to find a union notice board and read it,
A hint,
This forum is not where you will find the answers you seek.
Dial 02 9554 9399,
If the office is unable to help you ask for the mobile number of the exec member covering your state.
It is not a free call, you may have to pay for the call

Its not hard to do

I am on the email list if 2000 members must ring bexley every day for an update the reps are not doing there job they won the election by saying they will keep us informed.
I ask again does any person in the know. know how the eba is going i am a typical tight lame and do not want to spend 25cents.
maybe i should email bexley or better still become a rep and not share the information like everyone else as knowlege is power

[QF MAINT OUTSOURCED]

I'm Scottish And That's How We Spell It

[chemical alli]

ask and you recieve

domo a question?


have you asked a rep on whats happening with the eba?

i spoke to a rep in base and it seems a meeting of the executive is scheduled for 29th of jan at bexley in regards to the eba and to discuss a way forward with negotiations.as of this time the apparent company view, is to not bargain at all, with regards to any or all of the claims put forward by the alaea.the companies point is that unless we accept their log of claims in whole then they will not discuss any further on the issue.

so at the moment the alaea has nothing really to report back with.

my next question to you domo ,is what exactly are you prepared to do in the event of the company not discussing the eba ? i have seen in the past everybody talks tough then folds come crunch time .

this eba is probably the most important eba that we as union members will have to vote on . at least the perth guys and girls are staying together albeit a few

[QF MAINT OUTSOURCED]

Time To Strike,grow A Backbone That's Why You Voted In The New Exec,because The Last Lot Were Piss Weak

[Bumpfoh]

pl(e)b

Thanks Peter you have now exposed yourself as nothing but a disgruntled, office chair bearing trouble maker that apparently has an axe to grind with the ALAEA, or more to the point the performance of the past ALAEA exec.

While you may have a personal agenda with the local ALAEA reps that does not excuse your unfounded slur for the incumbant executive who I believe are desperatly trying to right the wrongs of the previous exec.

As you have stated you have moved on to another union to reprsent you and that is your right, and good luck to you, however your apparent antagonistic commnets serve no purpose in furthering our collective well being in the workplace regardless of position or remuneration.

You have had your gripe now give it a rest.

[splashman]

Be nice if we could strike, anybody know how the appeal to full bench of AIRC re Perth orders played out.

Might be we all work 8 hour shifts after Mel voted down the merger.

What a way for QF to negotiate, forcing the Perth members onto a 8 hour because they were happy with 12/12, and they voted down a 12 /10.

Guess its BUSINESS AS USUAL

Wonder if the MEL members will now face the full force of the big stick of M, (as the Perth lady and lad's have) and be punished by being forced onto an 8 hour, then discover the members actually enjoy the lifestyle change

[PitPin]

M's stick

Lets see if M brings his stick down on the mel engineers who voted down the merger .

[splashman]

Quote me,

From the mouth of a QF ACS State Manager

"Even though the 8 hour shift does not work in Perth, it will work here in XXXXX"

All QF ACS "top knobs" need to realise is : that we all are willing to help them save money, be more efficient, implement new policies and structures etc,etc,etc.
We are willing to back and support them 100%, so that they can achieve their KPI's and recieve their bonuses.

Just don't stuff around with our wages and conditions !
If we require "accountability" so do you!


What is a WIIFM. ? Mr M
I heard at a " Amazing People " waste of time, (that you approved my overtime for), it stands for "What's in it for me"!!!!!!!!!

EBA 8 Negotiations, Have QF ever thought past WIIFM ?
Rosters, Have QF ever thought past WIIFM ?

Mr Cox, Harris, Vincent and respective underling's,
Have you ever thought past WIIFM ??????????

Maybe leading by example is the way to show it.

[domo]

Mr Talling-Smith says: "During the last few days, a number of you have called and emailed to ask if you can volunteer to work on strike days if you are not rostered

thats from the paper, british stewards volunteer to s___ on there workmates.
i believe we would never stoop that low they do get 200pounds a day allowances for s_____

[Torqueman]

Splashman

Are the Forstaff LAME's wages and conditions on a par with QF ? No

Why, QF people can fly on any airline and Forstaff people can only fly on an aircraft with a red tail. Not even Jetstar. What a joke!!

Forstaff people can't even join Interline for discounts.

With QF off loading all there holiday destinations to Jetstar a Forstaff workers will soon have little chance if any of getting to those destination on staff travel. Sure QF still fly to some of them. However there will be less likelyhood of getting a seat as paying passengers choose to fly a full service flight, if you would call it that. And what about their priority. Lower than Dog SH!t.

Would you call that condition 'on a par'.............???????

Do QF engineers get a shirt, pants and shorts etc, etc,
Something that resembles a uniform?

Well go and check out what the Forstaff empoyees get, a couple of pairs of overalls. AME's, LAME's, cleaners, whoever.........

On par?????????

QF engineer's get paid for a 737 licence and accumulate the appropriate points and levels. Forstaff employees don't.

Par?????????

I don't think so.

Do the ALAEA support the LAME's at Avalon? No

Do they push for adequate training and supervision ratios of LAME's at Avalon? NO

Why?

Well they are to busy supporting Melbourne narrow body maintenance.

Well I look forward to the day when there are enough Avalon ALAEA members who all realise that the hold the balance, and can influence a repersentative body who is not realy interested in supporting them or putting their interests in front of Melbourne's.

I bet they are looking forward to reciprocating the years of neglect.

The new executive made promises to put things right. Have they yet? NO

Have they made any attempt to right the wrongs of the previous executive, like the decision on the 737 licences at Avalon? No

On par?

Your dreaming!

[Driptray]

I have been a member of the ALAEA for some time, this is about to cease, my issue is that the association is an instrument designed for the airlines, all the news letters, any info that is received all revolves around the airlines. I have not worked airlines, and will quite likely never work the airlines. They don't seem to have much interest in doing anything that is not airline related. The engineers that work for the company I am employed by are negotiating the new eba, and we have gone through the AWU, will they be any better?, who knows, but we have decided that we need to try something other than the ALAEA. It comes down to each to their own, if you are not happy with your representation, you need to try something else. I have never heard anyone rave about how well the association have looked after them, have you?

[Redstone]

Driptray, it sounds like you and your colleagues have been marginalised by the association. Did you have any organisers or reps on site?