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Old 9th Jan 2007, 06:39
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Alaea ?

Is the new ALAEA performing for its members ?
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Haven't noticed any difference but I understand the Secretary now has a company car.
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Is the new ALAEA performing for its members ?
Wish they would bring back the forums. Or even better, create some mailing lists.
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What happened to the ALAEA website?? No longer working.
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Originally Posted by magoo31
What happened to the ALAEA website?? No longer working.
Forgot to pay the bill ?

www.alaea.asn.au

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Depth

A little out of their depth I think personal agendas getting in the way ?
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What haven't they done ?. Where are they failing us.?.
My impession is that you have a group of highly dedicated guy's all working together, who face hostile companies willing to use every trick in the book. You can only do so much with the current I.R laws, already we have an order from the AIRC re Perth rosters, didn't get to that point by doing nothing!
The worst thing for the ALAEA are the members who think its all about them and only them, and are willing to undermine all other members to advance themselves.
You wish to know whats going on, give an exec member a call, their mobile numbers are on the notice boards and from personal experiance, I know they make themselves available 24/7.
Or do you need someone to do it for you???????
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Communication

1.What ever happened to report back meetings which inform many people at one time rather than everyone calling a councillor wasting his time ?
2.Which counciller do you call as they only seem willing to talk on particular issues and cagey on others .
3. The web site is lacking information compared to other unions web sites that is when it's working .
4. Is the voice linked to the alaea in anyway ?
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Originally Posted by LME-400
Forgot to pay the bill ?

www.alaea.asn.au
Confirmed.

Hi

The account has been suspended for non payment.

If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.

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I've emailed the last known email address that I have for them letting them know. Wonder if their email is down as well.

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Originally Posted by MENDAERO
I know they have a new website in the works, perhaps AUSWEB dosen't have the new contract?
My experience with changing web host is that you do not get a 'suspended' page put up.

Anyway, with the closing of QF Syd HM I'm hoping to wean myself off Aviation and as such I have left tha ALAEA.

I did get a nice pen from them though.

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Old 11th Jan 2007, 21:35
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Originally Posted by MENDAERO
How about going cold turkey?
I probably will work wise.

With the sale of QF and other things I'm curious about the future of the industry.
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Got an E Mail yesterday re QF EBA 8 latest update, its only a call or E Mail to have yoursef put on the mailing list.

Perth is a no go issue due to AIRC order and the wrong thing uttered could mean hefty fines if interperated the wrong way.

I wonder how the accounts for the last few months compare to that of the previous exec, could always ask and compare entertainment expenses.

Those who consider a chair in the lunchroom is theirs for life, and don't do anything from it but winge, moan and complain from it, should remember that the current exec was voted in by a huge majority of members and with a strong mandate from those members. Give them a chance, little snipes or bruises egos should be forgotten about, we are as strong as we allow ourselves to be.

Quote from an exec member, I am not the ALAEA, you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a breath of fresh air that was for me
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Old 12th Jan 2007, 09:55
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most engineers admit it a tough gig to deal with qantas. I think when this new lot got elected a few guys thought that a breath of fresh air would sweep through the hangers.but as we know its easier to not have no power and winge what we would do if we had power.than if we had power.
good luck guys its going to be a tough year, ebs's, cost cutting, rosters
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Danger ALAEA to busy

The ALAEA cant help its members at Avalon as they have two councillors to busy attacking other reps from other unions, making false allegations.
All because they can no longer run their own agendas. Dont know whether these attacks are because they are worried the AWU ARE WATCHING EVERY MOVE THEY MAKE OR DO THEY JUST FEEL THREATENED.You know who you are be careful very careful as I am seeking legal advice over all the personel attacks, I can handle the union issue's but there is no need for the personal attacks.Grow up, the next time you slander me I will see you in court. think of your members and their futures. Sorry forgot the ALAEA Avalon councillors only look after their own interest not the work force.
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Old 22nd Jan 2007, 08:30
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I wonder do the alaea ever regret setting up avalon? a few ex heavy maintenance sydney might. on a personel note i think it was the start of the rot like the australian airlines of engeering
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Old 22nd Jan 2007, 08:37
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Danger Avalon

Its great to know only mistakes happen at Avalon, after all the training Avalon employees receive is Qantas training by Qantas employees from Sydney.Dont blame Avalon for all your issues, learn to take some of the credit yourselves. You had you chance for sometime with no improvments, some of us at Avalon have put in the hard yards. Not like some Qantas employees who beleive its all about them.
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Old 22nd Jan 2007, 09:05
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Not like some Qantas employees who beleive its all about them.
thats my point peter qantas lames were served by the qantas branch of the union.now forestaff interests are looked after as well this dilutes the orginal purpose which was to look after QANTAS lames
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Seem to recall Avalon was set up by QF/Forstaff with ALAEA involvement as a greenfields site to handle QF overflow work at Syd HM.

Now whats happened, no Syd HM and Avalon is the main QF 747 heavy maint base.

All in all not a great idea for the ALAEA to be involved in and, taking " consultant fees" for that involvment has hurt.

Remember, the current exec are not the people who created the "train wreck" but they are doing all they can with what they have.

Is life better at Avalon now than it was when it was ASTA ?

Are the Forstaff LAME's wages and conditions on a par with QF ?

In an ideal word , yes they should be and yes I do not think previous exec's have done the right things by the Forstaff guys but it was not the exec you have now.

How would it be without them bearing in mind how ASTA was run and how ASTA ended up.
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Thumbs down peterlongbeach

peter,

If you have genuine concerns or complaints regarding your local ALAEA reps then take the appropriate action, be it with management or the association EXEC, or legal avenues if you wish, but please don't resort to wasting valuable bandwidth on what appears to be a hollow whinge/sook on this thread.
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Thumbs down Bumpfoh

Who are you to tell me what i can do, I have just as much right to put items on this or any other thread. It is with the exc / managment. Still does not stop them from the ongoing personel attacks, you have these drop kicks spreading rubbish about you putting your job on the line.Also the exc wont talk to employees that are not members of their union or what ever they call them selves. Anyway talking to the ALAEA is like talking to a
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