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Old 8th Nov 2006, 11:10
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Cool NJS B717s

Just wondering how the operation of the 717 is panning out in NJS service and how the boys and girls like flying it. I have heard various stories ..........

and you may be getting some more ..... (Aircraft not stories!)

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Just wondering how the operation of the 717 is panning out in NJS service and how the boys and girls like flying it. I have heard various stories ..........

and you may be getting some more ..... (Aircraft not stories!)
More 717's? From where??

I hope they're going to bring some spares for them too!
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Originally Posted by airbusthreetwenty
More 717's? From where??

I hope they're going to bring some spares for them too!
Probably the 6 (?) 717-200s parked at Newcastle and Brisbane..

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Does anyone have any idea if and when the B717's will be RVSM approved? It would make our job easier as well as cause less restriction to requested levels. It won't help when the restriction is the Skywest F100 though.

On the Skywest F100's, anyone know whether they are planned to have RVSM approval? I notice the two Alliance F100s that have started operations out of Perth have RVSM so it's not an aircraft problem.

When Skywest get the A320s will they be RVSM approved, on the history of Skywest I would guess not!
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I wonder whether the DJ ERJ purchase will prompt Qantas to bring the 717s back to the east coast? With a few rows of J class, I can just see them running a MEL-CBR shuttle or a few flights CBR-ADL etc.
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West ATC, before you criticise non-RVSM operators, have a close look at the CAAP and other requirements for RVSM approval. The is a huge amount of regulatory effort involved.

NJS' 717 RVSM approval is coming very soon, or so the rumour has it.

Apacau,
Wouldn't it be logical for DJ to run a few Juingle Jets in WA/NT, and so wouldn't the 717s be best staying there to compete? Or do you live in the centre of the universe, Sydney?
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Are spares a problem? 'Cause if dont spend the money on maint/spares now on the 717 she will will eventually become harder to maintain to the extent of becoming uneconomic to operate. I know the NJS tender for the 717s contained an allowance for spares/Maint that was so low it made people think at the time. But I am sure that the Old Girl is overcoming all that and flying like the DC9 clone she is. Long may she grace our skys.............
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West ATC,
we want to know the same thing. NJS pilots.
Management keeps telling us next month.
There maybe some hurdles to overcome to obtain RVSM, however you won't ever convince me it should take over 2 yrs. Thats just poor management like the rest of it.
Are spares a problem?
Trying to get spares off Impulse/Poxstar initially was a problem. Now they are not operating the type any more the problem appears to be solved.

Bloggs, sydney is about 2000nm closer to the centre of the universe than PERTH
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Centre of the universe

The centre of the universe is in Asia.
Darwin has a road (the Stuart highway) that runs from Darwin to Australia.
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The centre of the universe is in Asia.
Darwin has a road (the Stuart highway) that runs from Darwin to Australia.
And lets keep it that way!!
Bloody NT Labor government has decreed to make it a lot further by road then it was previously. Speed limits would you believe.
With luck she will have more time for coffee with you soon CC.
Speaking to one of the F/A's the other night, she did astro physics at Uni, so I will find out where the real centre of the universe is.
Bet its no where near WA.

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Oh dear, I think Renurpppp has finally gone troppo!
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Originally Posted by Capn Bloggs
West ATC, before you criticise non-RVSM operators, have a close look at the CAAP and other requirements for RVSM approval. The is a huge amount of regulatory effort involved.
Wasn't meant to be a criticism of Skywest itself, just wondering if Skywest are trying to get RVSM approval for the F100's. I know that the F100 is still relatively new to Skywest and I realise that there is a lot of effort involved to get approval, but is Skywest trying to get the approval?

I just made the point that the Alliance F100's have RVSM approval but Skywest don't.

Good to see that the NJS 717's are nearly there!
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Skywest is also going through the RVSM process with submission made to Airworthiness and Training for Engineering just about complete. Verification flights to come.
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West ATC, the Admiral decreed it was'nt a priority, but then again nothing seems to be when you're not paying for fuel
Speaking of the Admiral, which one of you suckers has to baby, I mean, fly with him

OOOOOOOOOps, Clarrie, have I inadvertantly sunk to bitter and twistedness
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which one of you suckers has to baby, I mean, fly with him
Agro and The Speed Demon!
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Geeeeeeeez, what did they do to deserve that
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717 is very restricted on some routes. Example : Into Newman presently they are capping loads at 88 pax, that means 27 empty seats each flight...
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Nah, the spare 717's are heading for Jetconnect.
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Old 9th Nov 2006, 06:50
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717 is very restricted on some routes. Example : Into Newman presently they are capping loads at 88 pax, that means 27 empty seats each flight...
You mean OUT OF ZNE they are capping the seats...

It's all in the chip. Change the donk chip for the big mother and the jets could be full. Besides, there ain't that many people who want ot go to ZNE!
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717 is very restricted on some routes. Example : Into Newman presently they are capping loads at 88 pax, that means 27 empty seats each flight...
You mean OUT OF ZNE they are capping the seats...
It's all in the chip. Change the donk chip for the big mother and the jets could be full. Besides, there ain't that many people who want to go to ZNE!
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