NJS B717s
actually bloggsy there is high demand for seats to and fro ZNE, of course this does not necessarily mean these pax want to be going there. my apologies the capping is only ex ZNE, I believe QF are looking at 737 ops as an alternative....
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Bloody NT Labor government has decreed to make it a lot further by road then it was previously. Speed limits would you believe.
With luck she will have more time for coffee with you soon CC.
Bloody NT Labor government has decreed to make it a lot further by road then it was previously. Speed limits would you believe.
With luck she will have more time for coffee with you soon CC.
Besides that, in a Legislative Assembly of 17 (or is it 18?) v 4, it'd bee too big a swing. Bloody hell, a 210's got more seats than the CLP!
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What routes was the 717 designed for?
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Topend:in summer capped ex PBO, ex ZNE, ex KA, ex AS ( although KG is avail for fuel ), and bloggsy wasnt being entirely honest, unless they have addressed approach climb issue, then they are sometime restricted IN to those ports.
Clarry: The Yanks designed it, and use it as such, out of 2500m + runways into 2500+ runways.
Unfortunately I do not think there has been or will be an aeroplane designed for exactly what NJS use them for. ( that was definitely not bitter and twisted
Clarry: The Yanks designed it, and use it as such, out of 2500m + runways into 2500+ runways.
Unfortunately I do not think there has been or will be an aeroplane designed for exactly what NJS use them for. ( that was definitely not bitter and twisted
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So when a modification to a chip is made, what does this refer to and how does this increase the thrust from the engine?
The caps do not seem to be working in the centre...
The caps do not seem to be working in the centre...
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unless they have addressed approach climb issue
Well said... 717 was designed for and perfect on the routes it serviced in the guise of QantasLink/Impulse.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it, hey? Just a thought...
If it ain't broke, don't fix it, hey? Just a thought...
when a modification to a chip is made, what does this refer to and how does this increase the thrust from the engine?
The point is, QF needed/wanted to exit the 146 and also obviously wanted to replace it. 737-800 were obviously out of the question as loads at the time were too light, and even now they can be used more effectively elsewhere. The 717 might have been right for Impulse, but it just didn't fit QF except as it's vehicle for progressing GoD's JQ.
One could easily argue that it is THE most suitable jet for the longish WA routes. BME, PHE, KGI, PBO, ZNE, KTA. Sure, they are limited in summer (with the small chips), but what aircraft, at the total operating cost of the 717, wouldn't be? Fukker 100s? Too small. Sure you could replace it with 737-800s or DeathStars, but how much more would it cost? Have a look at the fares QF are charging and then analyse the cost of the Op. NJS/717 is an absolute goldmine for GoD (I suspect a bit cheaper than JQ unless the bureaucracy weighs NJS down...).
Could you explain to us then where you get the 717 and the 737 going to the same place (ie KG, KA, BM) how come the 717 fares are always a little more expensive for the same flight? And you don't get any inflight entertainment.
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Obviously Ansett & Taa-Taas had it wrong when they ordered the 727 & DC9 all those years ago. YSCB, YAYE, YBAS, etc. have historically had troubles during the summer months.
Could a 738 pilot advise if the 738 can take off at MBRW at all ports, all through the year?
Could a 738 pilot advise if the 738 can take off at MBRW at all ports, all through the year?
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I can't. Except that the BabeLink girls seem to be better than the old dragons so you should pay more! All I'm pointing out is that the NJS 717 op for QF is a good deal. Ripping off the punters? That's up to you to decide. A very very good deal for GoD and his shareholders? Yep Yep.
how come the 717 fares are always a little more expensive for the same flight? And you don't get any inflight entertainment.
All I'm pointing out is that the NJS 717 op for QF is a good deal. Ripping off the punters? That's up to you to decide. A very very good deal for GoD and his shareholders? Yep Yep.
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CC, the DC9 had/has a lot less performance than the 717 but yes you are correct the old Diesel struggled in hot/high combinations with a full load.
Is this "admiral" returned from Japan by chance ?
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Just as a brief example, Sun 12 Nov PER-BME
QF1930 still selling Red-e-Deals $255o/w (QFlink)
QF1074 only selling Fully Flexible $690o/w (Mainline)
or Sun 12 Nov PER-KGI
QF1884 $165o/w (QFlink)
QF1064 $250o/w (Mainline)
Hats off to the QFLink Cabin Crew recruiting team absolute sterling job
Not only in the looks department but they do a fantastic job in sometimes very trying circumstances. (Just think planeload of miners and you'll get the idea!)
Had a hunt through a few prices and it seems that QF have taken my comments on board as the flights I compared now have the same redi-deal prices regardless of aircraft. Doh Whereas it used to be that the 717 was an extra 10-20 dollars more.
Not only in the looks department but they do a fantastic job in sometimes very trying circumstances. (Just think planeload of miners and you'll get the idea!)
Had a hunt through a few prices and it seems that QF have taken my comments on board as the flights I compared now have the same redi-deal prices regardless of aircraft. Doh
Whereas it used to be that the 717 was an extra 10-20 dollars more.
Well you lot I've done a little research and apart from an aberration at AYQ (what is that NAV up to?) the 717 is equal to or better in performance than the mighty 146-300/507 at all of the ports it regularly goes to. The fact that it can carry another 30 passengers when it's cooler (ie tourist season) is a bonus. So it seems that using it to replace the 146 wasn't such a bad idea, esp when the option of hotting up the donks hasn't even been used yet.
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Did you know that your aeroplane's engines can produce more power than they do in standard trim?
Then why don't they? The factory detuned the engines to protect them from careless pilots, shonky LAMEs and water contaminated fuel.
But you are a professional pilot working for the leading provider of contracted aerial passenger and freight services to large civil and government organisations in Australasia. You take exceptional care of your aeroplanes. It's not fair that you are hindered by the conservative factory settings.
Unfortunately, there hasn't been a way to unlock that power - unless you spent big bucks buying off CASA FOIs to overlook iLLEgAl MoDz on your donks.
But now there's an easy and effective way to access that power technology from Modchip. It's performance software for your engine control unit (ECU). Like a shot of adrenaline, clever programming wakes your engines up. Your aeroplane feels crisp and more responsive. You get improved acceleration, quicker throttle response and better flyability.
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