Bass Strait Night Ditching Considerations
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737 ditching practice in the simulator. Scenario No. 1 Fire on board or any fire and need to get it down quickly before the smoke gets you. Emergency descent and ditch.
Scenario 2. Island destination clagged and diversion to distant alternate. Arrive at alternate desperately low on fuel and no choice but to ditch before fuel runs out. Leave enough fuel for power on ditching.
Scenario 2. Island destination clagged and diversion to distant alternate. Arrive at alternate desperately low on fuel and no choice but to ditch before fuel runs out. Leave enough fuel for power on ditching.
DEAF,
You made the comment that there had been no survivors in recent times from BS ditchings (wartime history unknown).
One that did survive was a gent back in the early 80's. A gent in a single. Reported engine failure. He got picked up by a boat that he ditched near.
You made the comment that there had been no survivors in recent times from BS ditchings (wartime history unknown).
One that did survive was a gent back in the early 80's. A gent in a single. Reported engine failure. He got picked up by a boat that he ditched near.
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Original post said;
"Boeing 737 Crew Training Manual states:
"On final approach announce ditching is imminent and advise crew and passengers to brace for impact.
Maintain airspeed at Vref. Maintain 200 to 300 fpm rate of descent. Plan to touchdown on the windward side and parallel to the waves or swell, if possible. To accomplish the flare and touchdown, rotate smoothly to touchdown attitude of 10-12 degrees. Maintain airspeed and rate of descent with thrust."
I pressume the most likely reason for a ditching is due to the lack of THRUST ....... so I have to wonder how the Boing boys expect you to accomplish this feat
J
"Boeing 737 Crew Training Manual states:
"On final approach announce ditching is imminent and advise crew and passengers to brace for impact.
Maintain airspeed at Vref. Maintain 200 to 300 fpm rate of descent. Plan to touchdown on the windward side and parallel to the waves or swell, if possible. To accomplish the flare and touchdown, rotate smoothly to touchdown attitude of 10-12 degrees. Maintain airspeed and rate of descent with thrust."
I pressume the most likely reason for a ditching is due to the lack of THRUST ....... so I have to wonder how the Boing boys expect you to accomplish this feat
J
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Is that the ditching were the boat that saved him belonged to his mate and when the A/C was brought to the serface a few years later by a fishing net it had been gutted and had a motorbike helmet still inside it?
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Regarding the Boeing manual....I would suggest the most likely cause of a ditching in any large multi engine jet is probably an on board fire that has become uncontrollable.
That's the scenario that scares me the most during those long nights spent out over the Tasman sea, or Pacific Ocean.
Lack of thrust is only likely with lack of fuel, which has also known to have happened, but the fire thing is my biggest concern. Better to try a ditching under control, than end up like the Swissair MD11.
That's the scenario that scares me the most during those long nights spent out over the Tasman sea, or Pacific Ocean.
Lack of thrust is only likely with lack of fuel, which has also known to have happened, but the fire thing is my biggest concern. Better to try a ditching under control, than end up like the Swissair MD11.