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does Brisbane hangar have the tooling to do 767 strut mods..?? I hear there is a shortage of tools and GSE for doing routine Heavy maint... and no one local to repair anything that breaks... any one care to comment.. 
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sorry to say----but with idiots like PR involved in running the place-brisbane heavy haven't got a hope in hell
SOF, shift managers perform very few tasks. Amongst them are rejecting leave applications and holding toolbox meetings. That's about all.
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So going by BHMvictim's last post it appears that the notice from the fedsec has been faxed to BHM also, dare I suggest it has been faxed to all dept's on the ALAEA's list.
Sonhouse if you havent received it yet, why don't you go and find the fax machine in your dept and ask anyone around if they have seen it!
The SMS idea you have sonhouse might be a good one, why don't you or masterstroke click on BHMvictim's link and SMS your ideas to the FED EXEC directly. Or is that to progressive for members of the association, direct phone numbers to Your ALAEA.
Go on be part of the solution.
Sonhouse if you havent received it yet, why don't you go and find the fax machine in your dept and ask anyone around if they have seen it!
The SMS idea you have sonhouse might be a good one, why don't you or masterstroke click on BHMvictim's link and SMS your ideas to the FED EXEC directly. Or is that to progressive for members of the association, direct phone numbers to Your ALAEA.
Go on be part of the solution.
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QF737 H/MAINT STILL IN GUNSIGHTS.
So, looks like QF management are still doing their best to ensure as many people as possible remain unsettled............
450 jobs up in air, Avalon may benefit
John Masanauskas
06jul06
QANTAS will decide the fate of 450 maintenance jobs at Melbourne Airport over the next two months.
But the airline yesterday refused to speculate if some of the work could be shifted to the expanded maintenance centre at Avalon airport.
Qantas's Avalon base employs 850 people. Sixty jobs will be added soon after the airline recently decided to transfer its Boeing 747 heavy maintenance to Victoria.
The move, part of Qantas's campaign to slash maintenance costs so as to better compete with foreign carriers, cost a net 340 engineering jobs in Sydney.
Qantas did not carry out a threat to send jobs offshore, but insists it will consider this if savings targets are not met.
The future of the airline's 737 heavy maintenance base at Tullamarine is being reviewed.
Qantas's executive general manager of engineering and maintenance services, David Cox, said yesterday options would be put to the 450-strong workforce over the next two months. Asked if it was possible the 737 work could be shifted to Avalon, Mr Cox said: "We couldn't speculate.
"There will be a full range of options reviewed. Each one of those will be given a very fair test, and then we'll make a decision."
Qantas's head of maintenance services, John Vincent, said Avalon had already been used for 737 work, including the reinforcing of cockpit doors after the September 11 terrorist attacks.
Other work done at Avalon has included the installation of Qantas's Skybed business seats and entertainment systems into the 747-400 fleet.
The centre is carrying out maintenance checks on jumbo jets and a program to convert four 737 aircraft into freighters for Australian Air Express, a joint venture between Qantas and Australia Post.
Most of the workers are employed by contractor Forstaff, an arrangement that gives Qantas more flexibility in rostering staff.
Mr Cox said the investment in Avalon and a site in Brisbane showed that Qantas was committed to heavy maintenance in Australia.
"There's a huge amount of work going on; this is a huge business by Australian standards," he said.
But Mr Cox said Qantas needed to do more to compete effectively with foreign airlines, whose maintenance costs were 20 per cent lower through outsourcing.
Airlines such as Singapore, Emirates, United and Lufthansa were sending their aircraft to cheaper sites in Asia and the Middle-East for heavy maintenance.
Mr Cox said Qantas would continue to send up to 20 aircraft overseas a year for maintenance checks when the work couldn't be done in Australia.
Maintenance costs the airline about $1.2 billion annually, he said.
450 jobs up in air, Avalon may benefit
John Masanauskas
06jul06
QANTAS will decide the fate of 450 maintenance jobs at Melbourne Airport over the next two months.
But the airline yesterday refused to speculate if some of the work could be shifted to the expanded maintenance centre at Avalon airport.
Qantas's Avalon base employs 850 people. Sixty jobs will be added soon after the airline recently decided to transfer its Boeing 747 heavy maintenance to Victoria.
The move, part of Qantas's campaign to slash maintenance costs so as to better compete with foreign carriers, cost a net 340 engineering jobs in Sydney.
Qantas did not carry out a threat to send jobs offshore, but insists it will consider this if savings targets are not met.
The future of the airline's 737 heavy maintenance base at Tullamarine is being reviewed.
Qantas's executive general manager of engineering and maintenance services, David Cox, said yesterday options would be put to the 450-strong workforce over the next two months. Asked if it was possible the 737 work could be shifted to Avalon, Mr Cox said: "We couldn't speculate.
"There will be a full range of options reviewed. Each one of those will be given a very fair test, and then we'll make a decision."
Qantas's head of maintenance services, John Vincent, said Avalon had already been used for 737 work, including the reinforcing of cockpit doors after the September 11 terrorist attacks.
Other work done at Avalon has included the installation of Qantas's Skybed business seats and entertainment systems into the 747-400 fleet.
The centre is carrying out maintenance checks on jumbo jets and a program to convert four 737 aircraft into freighters for Australian Air Express, a joint venture between Qantas and Australia Post.
Most of the workers are employed by contractor Forstaff, an arrangement that gives Qantas more flexibility in rostering staff.
Mr Cox said the investment in Avalon and a site in Brisbane showed that Qantas was committed to heavy maintenance in Australia.
"There's a huge amount of work going on; this is a huge business by Australian standards," he said.
But Mr Cox said Qantas needed to do more to compete effectively with foreign airlines, whose maintenance costs were 20 per cent lower through outsourcing.
Airlines such as Singapore, Emirates, United and Lufthansa were sending their aircraft to cheaper sites in Asia and the Middle-East for heavy maintenance.
Mr Cox said Qantas would continue to send up to 20 aircraft overseas a year for maintenance checks when the work couldn't be done in Australia.
Maintenance costs the airline about $1.2 billion annually, he said.
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And the QF management/Geelong Advertiser spin..................
Avalon takes on heavy responsibility
Operations manager Wayne Davidson with a Boeing 737 which is being converted from a passenger to a freight plane.
Thursday, July 6
Danny Lannen
SHE'S a gutted 737 jet sitting up on hoists.
She's got wires hanging out, a hole in her side big enough to drive a forklift through and she symbolises an unfolding vision at Avalon Airport.
Qantas is ascending steeply into its million-dollar plan to develop Avalon into its heavy maintenance hub and the 737 on hoists demonstrates that the winged Australian both means business and is ready for business.
The aircraft is being transformed from a passenger plane into a freighter and it's about as heavy as maintenance can get.
Engineers weigh her, ascertain where she needs support, lift her on million-dollar blocks, check her position by theodolite and then carve a vast hole in her side.
They shift her interior hardware like seats and lockers out through the hole, transform it into a cargo door with split millimetre accuracy and then check her balance again to make sure she'll fly truly. The work equates to the most radical piece of surgery on a jet aircraft in Australia, and it's in the hands of Avalon's army.
Qantas is now three months into its shift of heavy maintenance operations to Avalon from Sydney's Mascot Airport and with 850 people on its payroll is starting to generate millions of flow-on dollars for Geelong's economy.
The Qantas decision against taking its maintenance work off-shore resulted in a mighty boost for Australia and Geelong but flew in the face of industry trends.
The airline ranks perhaps 12th in the world for the scale of its maintenance operations. As long-haul competitors fly to places like Asia for cheaper costs, Qantas resolved to find smarter ways to work more efficiently at home and settled on Avalon as the hub for work on its mighty B747s and B737 conversions.
A rare look inside the airline's vast hangars yesterday revealed they were alive with engineers working on jets enclosed in storeys of scaffolding.
A mighty 747-400 is undergoing an upgrade and more than 20,000 hours of work will go into converting a 737 for freight.
Fifty-eight people were working inside the hoisted 737 at the same time yesterday.
Executive general manager of Qantas engineering, technical operations and maintenance David Cox looks at the unfurling Avalon story with some satisfaction but stressed operations would need to remain efficient to remain competitive for Qantas and for Australia.
``Geelong needs to keep supporting us, but needs to keep understanding that this business is a very dynamic one,'' Mr Cox said on the site yesterday.
``It's very competitive and Qantas is genuinely committed to making a go of it but it's a challenging business and will require constant work.''
Avalon takes on heavy responsibility
Operations manager Wayne Davidson with a Boeing 737 which is being converted from a passenger to a freight plane.
Thursday, July 6
Danny Lannen
SHE'S a gutted 737 jet sitting up on hoists.
She's got wires hanging out, a hole in her side big enough to drive a forklift through and she symbolises an unfolding vision at Avalon Airport.
Qantas is ascending steeply into its million-dollar plan to develop Avalon into its heavy maintenance hub and the 737 on hoists demonstrates that the winged Australian both means business and is ready for business.
The aircraft is being transformed from a passenger plane into a freighter and it's about as heavy as maintenance can get.
Engineers weigh her, ascertain where she needs support, lift her on million-dollar blocks, check her position by theodolite and then carve a vast hole in her side.
They shift her interior hardware like seats and lockers out through the hole, transform it into a cargo door with split millimetre accuracy and then check her balance again to make sure she'll fly truly. The work equates to the most radical piece of surgery on a jet aircraft in Australia, and it's in the hands of Avalon's army.
Qantas is now three months into its shift of heavy maintenance operations to Avalon from Sydney's Mascot Airport and with 850 people on its payroll is starting to generate millions of flow-on dollars for Geelong's economy.
The Qantas decision against taking its maintenance work off-shore resulted in a mighty boost for Australia and Geelong but flew in the face of industry trends.
The airline ranks perhaps 12th in the world for the scale of its maintenance operations. As long-haul competitors fly to places like Asia for cheaper costs, Qantas resolved to find smarter ways to work more efficiently at home and settled on Avalon as the hub for work on its mighty B747s and B737 conversions.
A rare look inside the airline's vast hangars yesterday revealed they were alive with engineers working on jets enclosed in storeys of scaffolding.
A mighty 747-400 is undergoing an upgrade and more than 20,000 hours of work will go into converting a 737 for freight.
Fifty-eight people were working inside the hoisted 737 at the same time yesterday.
Executive general manager of Qantas engineering, technical operations and maintenance David Cox looks at the unfurling Avalon story with some satisfaction but stressed operations would need to remain efficient to remain competitive for Qantas and for Australia.
``Geelong needs to keep supporting us, but needs to keep understanding that this business is a very dynamic one,'' Mr Cox said on the site yesterday.
``It's very competitive and Qantas is genuinely committed to making a go of it but it's a challenging business and will require constant work.''
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Originally Posted by chockchucker
Maintenance costs the airline about $1.2 billion annually, he said.
Mr Cox, WAKE THE F#^%!K up! Quit whining about maintenance costs. THEY ARE A NESACARY EXPENSE!
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Originally Posted by chockchucker
they were alive with engineers working on jets enclosed in storeys of scaffolding.
Back to the car metaphor. Would u feel comfortable with a mechanic who uses crappy old car stands and a bottle jack when he maintains your car?
Mr. Cox is not telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth here because he is failing to distinguish between servicing and maintenance.
My guess would be that at least half the 1.2 billion is servicing ie: oil change/filter/brakes/tyres/hydraulic fluid/batteries etc. etc. that is carried out repetitively ie: Line maintenance.
As opposed to heavy maintenance, when the airframe etc gets pulled apart and major sub assemblies overhauled. This where the cost cutting can get dangerous.
So no. Spending 1.2 billion on "maintenance" does not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling of safety.
My guess would be that at least half the 1.2 billion is servicing ie: oil change/filter/brakes/tyres/hydraulic fluid/batteries etc. etc. that is carried out repetitively ie: Line maintenance.
As opposed to heavy maintenance, when the airframe etc gets pulled apart and major sub assemblies overhauled. This where the cost cutting can get dangerous.
So no. Spending 1.2 billion on "maintenance" does not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling of safety.
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"Mr. Cox is not telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth here because he is failing to distinguish between servicing and maintenance."
Here's a thought....why dont we get some good quality questions together to ask mister cox and hand them over to a reputable media organisation such as the abc and see what he has to say. Lying to the media is a lot harder if the questions have substance.
I might start a new thread and see what reaction I get.
Here's a thought....why dont we get some good quality questions together to ask mister cox and hand them over to a reputable media organisation such as the abc and see what he has to say. Lying to the media is a lot harder if the questions have substance.
I might start a new thread and see what reaction I get.
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A List of quality questions for the Head of QF Engineering
If anyone has a good question of substance that they feel should be answered by the head of Qantas Engineering in relation to Qf's plans for the future put them up here and we'll see if we can get a media oranisation to ask Mr Cox for some answers.
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Tullamarine Heavy Maintenance
I see that the first salvo has been fired at Tullamarine Heavy Maintenance.
( Herald Sun 6th July 2006 ).
I wonder how the new executive will handle this one???????
( Herald Sun 6th July 2006 ).
I wonder how the new executive will handle this one???????
