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just had a look at the patterns for bid 245,
ohhhh the sick leave is going to go through the roof, it will cost QF a fortune in phone calls to the crew inquiring about their sick leave...
I have seen some stupid things in my life but this really beats it all.
ohhhh the sick leave is going to go through the roof, it will cost QF a fortune in phone calls to the crew inquiring about their sick leave...
I have seen some stupid things in my life but this really beats it all.
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this will be very popular.......
after doing a per syd they want us to transit for a few hours and then do to DRW and to top it all off why dont we send you to that hell hole BOM
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|* Pattern: BI03 | Base: SYD Status: A Complement: FSD 1 C/S 1 CFA 2 A/C 5
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Route Code: BOM09 Weeks: 4 8 Dates Op: 05/07, 02/08
Skills:
Cnfg Report Departure Arrival Slip Transit Minimum Duty Duty
V Service Type Pax Sectors Time Day LST UTC Day LST UTC Time Time Rest Hours Credit
2 QFA0583 C SYD/PER 1810 WE 1925 0925 WE 2230 1430 24:15 12:00 6:50 6:50
QFA0518 C PER/SYD 2315 FR 0015 1615 FR 0610 2010 TRANSIT 3:50 ------ ------ ------
QFA0123 3 SYD/DRW FR 1000 0000 FR 1350 0420 47:40 12:10 13:35 13:35
QFA0123 3 DRW/BOM 1400 SU 1500 0530 SU 1950 1420 72:00 12:40 10:20 10:20
QFA0124 3 BOM/SYD 2020 WE 2120 1550 TH 1405 0405 13:45 13:45
Days Away: 9 Minimum Base Turnaround: 3 Available: 0600 Overtime 1: 3:20 Overtime 2: 0:00 ODTA: 4 ADTA: 4
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Totals: Duty Hours: 44:30 Flight Duty Credit: 44:30 Elapsed Time Credit: 47:06 | Applicable Credit: 47:06 |
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after doing a per syd they want us to transit for a few hours and then do to DRW and to top it all off why dont we send you to that hell hole BOM
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|* Pattern: BI03 | Base: SYD Status: A Complement: FSD 1 C/S 1 CFA 2 A/C 5
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Route Code: BOM09 Weeks: 4 8 Dates Op: 05/07, 02/08
Skills:
Cnfg Report Departure Arrival Slip Transit Minimum Duty Duty
V Service Type Pax Sectors Time Day LST UTC Day LST UTC Time Time Rest Hours Credit
2 QFA0583 C SYD/PER 1810 WE 1925 0925 WE 2230 1430 24:15 12:00 6:50 6:50
QFA0518 C PER/SYD 2315 FR 0015 1615 FR 0610 2010 TRANSIT 3:50 ------ ------ ------
QFA0123 3 SYD/DRW FR 1000 0000 FR 1350 0420 47:40 12:10 13:35 13:35
QFA0123 3 DRW/BOM 1400 SU 1500 0530 SU 1950 1420 72:00 12:40 10:20 10:20
QFA0124 3 BOM/SYD 2020 WE 2120 1550 TH 1405 0405 13:45 13:45
Days Away: 9 Minimum Base Turnaround: 3 Available: 0600 Overtime 1: 3:20 Overtime 2: 0:00 ODTA: 4 ADTA: 4
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Totals: Duty Hours: 44:30 Flight Duty Credit: 44:30 Elapsed Time Credit: 47:06 | Applicable Credit: 47:06 |
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mmm...........easy, that one.
Lets see.....
My sick leave balance is around 170 days.
Absolutely no shortage of sympathetic Doctors out there.
Talk to your collegues........
"Whats the nature of your sickness ?", goes something like this-
"I'm not sure as I'm not a doctor but after seeing one you will be the first to know."
Don't bother calling back.
My Doctor refuses to put the nature of my illness on certificates prefering just to write, "illness".
He enjoys telling Qantas clerks who call him to ask, "piss off, it's none of your business".
My sick leave balance is around 170 days.
Absolutely no shortage of sympathetic Doctors out there.
Talk to your collegues........
"Whats the nature of your sickness ?", goes something like this-
"I'm not sure as I'm not a doctor but after seeing one you will be the first to know."
Don't bother calling back.
My Doctor refuses to put the nature of my illness on certificates prefering just to write, "illness".
He enjoys telling Qantas clerks who call him to ask, "piss off, it's none of your business".
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I like the new patterns.
The bid book was really getting "same old same old". And I've been getting the same tired old flying all the time. All I can say is
you can please some of the people all of the time
all of the people some of the time
but not all of the people all of the time...
At least the system give us a lot more variety, especially the people up in BNE and down in MEL... There's alot of good slip time in certain ports too...
It looks to me like the company are going to be forking out alot more in allowances, as well as a sh*t load of overtime with some of the patterns CARMEN has given us in one of her nasty moods... Yes some of the patterns suck if you don't like certain places....
Something tells me this will end up costing THEM money. Another shortsighted beancounter strategy? Or is someone at QF getting a nice kickback from they people at CARMEN's software company?
The bid book was really getting "same old same old". And I've been getting the same tired old flying all the time. All I can say is
you can please some of the people all of the time
all of the people some of the time
but not all of the people all of the time...
At least the system give us a lot more variety, especially the people up in BNE and down in MEL... There's alot of good slip time in certain ports too...
It looks to me like the company are going to be forking out alot more in allowances, as well as a sh*t load of overtime with some of the patterns CARMEN has given us in one of her nasty moods... Yes some of the patterns suck if you don't like certain places....
Something tells me this will end up costing THEM money. Another shortsighted beancounter strategy? Or is someone at QF getting a nice kickback from they people at CARMEN's software company?
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L2Assist wrote:
Quite correct. This is a result of privacy legislation, which gives doctors latitude to protect such information. It's your choice.
So if you're sick, you're sick.
My Doctor refuses to put the nature of my illness on certificates prefering just to write, "illness".
So if you're sick, you're sick.
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CARMEN MIRANDA
I wonder what the boyz at the Miranda Fishing club think about Carmen ????
Their "pace makers" will probably blow a fuse when they see their precious 4 and 5 day "sojourns" North & South of SYD ( NRT-CNS and LAX ) indispersed with the crap that others have been doing for years.
Any way, not long to go before the "V" for victory is announced.
Exit -stage -left!!!!!
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Their "pace makers" will probably blow a fuse when they see their precious 4 and 5 day "sojourns" North & South of SYD ( NRT-CNS and LAX ) indispersed with the crap that others have been doing for years.
Any way, not long to go before the "V" for victory is announced.
Exit -stage -left!!!!!
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[QUOTE=fright attendant]I like the new patterns.
The bid book was really getting "same old same old". And I've been getting the same tired old flying all the time. All I can say is
you can please some of the people all of the time
all of the people some of the time
but not all of the people all of the time...
At least the system give us a lot more variety, especially the people up in BNE and down in MEL... QUOTE]
thats ok if you like the new patterns then you do them, ok by me!
Why dont you put down as your number one bid the pattern that goes
SYD ADL SIN
SIN DRW ADL MEL
MEL SIN
SIN DRW ADL SYD.
It's there have a look!
Mel seems to have done ok so far, BNE have copped it big by getting
BOM SYD TRANSIT2 HOURS
PAX SYD BNE 17 15 HOURS TOUR OF DUTY
The bid book was really getting "same old same old". And I've been getting the same tired old flying all the time. All I can say is
you can please some of the people all of the time
all of the people some of the time
but not all of the people all of the time...
At least the system give us a lot more variety, especially the people up in BNE and down in MEL... QUOTE]
thats ok if you like the new patterns then you do them, ok by me!
Why dont you put down as your number one bid the pattern that goes
SYD ADL SIN
SIN DRW ADL MEL
MEL SIN
SIN DRW ADL SYD.
It's there have a look!
Mel seems to have done ok so far, BNE have copped it big by getting
BOM SYD TRANSIT2 HOURS
PAX SYD BNE 17 15 HOURS TOUR OF DUTY
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Why are you malcontents complaining about? The produced and published rosters are allowed under the EBA that was voted upon by a majority of your colleagues. In fact, these rosters would have been legal years ago if they were able to have been planned. As the schedules allow & the new system is able to produce lines like this, you had better get used to working (harder) in accordance with T's and C's agreed between your union and employer.
And yair. You do have a choice. Either accept what is on offer or p!ss off and find something that offers conditions that are more to your liking and appropriate for your skills. There is no shortage of young people who would kill to have your jobs, no matter what you may think.
Happy flying.
And yair. You do have a choice. Either accept what is on offer or p!ss off and find something that offers conditions that are more to your liking and appropriate for your skills. There is no shortage of young people who would kill to have your jobs, no matter what you may think.
Happy flying.
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another expert from the bunker
b a lert how little you understand. there is another option. it just needs the three stooges from the faaa to get of their a**** and challenge it through the right channels. it's called fatigue management. as i said before i love carmen, its going to pro-actively make me manage my sickleave balance. and there is lots of it.
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Yes, just reading where B A Fart was laughed off the pilots forum for similar ignorant stupidity. I feel just another desk jockey who’s tried to photocopy his arse in order to impress the boss’s PA but ended up with a lobotomy. 
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Hey BALERT ,
lots of young people just waiting to do our jobs, eh???
What a shame only those in Thailand, New Zealand and the UK would ever get a look in under the Rat's "de-Australianization Program".
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Make sure when one of the "brown shirts" call you at home to enquire about your "wellbeing" after reporting sick that you explain how touched you are by their concern.
Explain that under the old guard nobody seemed to care and what an improvement the new system is.
It leaves them, faaaaaarked............
lots of young people just waiting to do our jobs, eh???
What a shame only those in Thailand, New Zealand and the UK would ever get a look in under the Rat's "de-Australianization Program".
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Make sure when one of the "brown shirts" call you at home to enquire about your "wellbeing" after reporting sick that you explain how touched you are by their concern.
Explain that under the old guard nobody seemed to care and what an improvement the new system is.
It leaves them, faaaaaarked............
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Oh dear. Why do we waste our time replying to the challenged? Attitudes like those expressed above show just why GD is trying his best to bust the FAAA. Entrenched work practices and exploitation of the employer by taking 'sickies', aided and abetted by unscruplous medical practitioners, achieves nothing. When will you get thge message and realise that it is counter-productive?
Yair. There is another choice over which you have some influence. Get involved and take an active interest in the FAAA. I wonder, for example, how many of you bothered to vote at the last election???
Lastly if you want to be taken with a pinch of seriousness and sincerity, stick to the issue. I am neither stupid, ignorant nor, as one of you so eloquently described, an arsehole. That just about sums up the level of your debating skills - if you don't like what someone says, just hurl insults. I hope that you don't treat our customers like this but with the maturity that some of you display, I can't be too sure.
Yair. There is another choice over which you have some influence. Get involved and take an active interest in the FAAA. I wonder, for example, how many of you bothered to vote at the last election???
Lastly if you want to be taken with a pinch of seriousness and sincerity, stick to the issue. I am neither stupid, ignorant nor, as one of you so eloquently described, an arsehole. That just about sums up the level of your debating skills - if you don't like what someone says, just hurl insults. I hope that you don't treat our customers like this but with the maturity that some of you display, I can't be too sure.
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Don't worry bealert,
qf will "get the message" quick smart about just how "counterproductive" planning 17 + hour tours of duty are when trip after trip has to be crewed by those called out from standby.........
As for the morality of calling in sick when rostered to operate this kind of rubbish???
It might help you to think of it as OUR form of fatigue management.
Easy.
qf will "get the message" quick smart about just how "counterproductive" planning 17 + hour tours of duty are when trip after trip has to be crewed by those called out from standby.........
As for the morality of calling in sick when rostered to operate this kind of rubbish???
It might help you to think of it as OUR form of fatigue management.
Easy.
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Cart exchange...
You are right - that pattern sucks big time, and yes I want to slap Carmen across the chops for it. Think I will pass on your suggestion of putting that as my top bid.
That kind of pattern aside, overall I think the increase in variety is a good thing. We all like to do different stuff as we all have different lifestyles, different needs, family commitments etc. If you don't like particular patterns - don't bid for them. And if you do get them and happen to suddenly "feel ill" - if it works for you then call 1800 GO SICK. Then enjoy being sent to Africa or Bombay or somewhere else you hate to offset your pay protection. Or maybe you can just drop the hours if you are rolling in cash. Those crew sitting around on their arses on standby will be greatfull for a trip with a stack of overtime..
For me, I like the trips with big hours, and having blocks of time at home of a few days.. And as a commuter, these recent years have been difficult as trip length overall has shortened, making commuting more costly (won't even talk about the f&**ing fuel levy!). So more choice of flying with more hours per trip will be great for me. Maybe not so if you have family, but there are still heaps of shorter trips if thats your cup of tea.
A few of my mates up in Brissie are looking forward to the changes as all they have been doing up there is back to back 3 day SIN. And the continuous service they do on the QF52 aint nice...
As has already been suggested, what we need is an instant online trip swap system with NO interference from the company as long as the swaps fall within our work rules (hours and min rest etc).
You are right - that pattern sucks big time, and yes I want to slap Carmen across the chops for it. Think I will pass on your suggestion of putting that as my top bid.
That kind of pattern aside, overall I think the increase in variety is a good thing. We all like to do different stuff as we all have different lifestyles, different needs, family commitments etc. If you don't like particular patterns - don't bid for them. And if you do get them and happen to suddenly "feel ill" - if it works for you then call 1800 GO SICK. Then enjoy being sent to Africa or Bombay or somewhere else you hate to offset your pay protection. Or maybe you can just drop the hours if you are rolling in cash. Those crew sitting around on their arses on standby will be greatfull for a trip with a stack of overtime..
For me, I like the trips with big hours, and having blocks of time at home of a few days.. And as a commuter, these recent years have been difficult as trip length overall has shortened, making commuting more costly (won't even talk about the f&**ing fuel levy!). So more choice of flying with more hours per trip will be great for me. Maybe not so if you have family, but there are still heaps of shorter trips if thats your cup of tea.
A few of my mates up in Brissie are looking forward to the changes as all they have been doing up there is back to back 3 day SIN. And the continuous service they do on the QF52 aint nice...
As has already been suggested, what we need is an instant online trip swap system with NO interference from the company as long as the swaps fall within our work rules (hours and min rest etc).