QANTAS'S occupational health and safety policies
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QANTAS'S occupational health and safety policies
Taken from http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/com...E28957,00.html
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QANTAS'S occupational health and safety policies have been ramped up to ridiculous levels by over-zealous reps, or so we hear from frustrated Qantas staff.
The obsession with safety, which has spread from the appropriate maintenance centres into office areas, has reached the point that workers are apparently grumbled at for the most minor of issues.
One Qantas Eye reader tells us he was even told off for not holding on to the handrail when descending a flight of stairs.
And then there's the dozens of aircraft-shaped stress balls promoting Qantas's safety slogan, "Safe Airline for Everyone", that infiltrated the offices during the recent Safety Week.
So imagine our reader's bemusement when a Qantas memo arrived in his inbox last week, alerting staff to the dangers of the safety stress balls.
"Potential Choking Hazard," the memo declared.
"In the interest of safety, we are making all employees aware that the orange stress airplane distributed during Safety Week should not be given to young children.
"There have been two reported incidents of infants being at risk of choking after breaking off parts of the plane. This is a timely reminder that vigilance is required with young children and small colourful objects."
Timely indeed.
So very true, it is in fact getting rediculous to the max, it appears the whole safety push is a deception just to make the operation as slow and inefficient as humanly possible just to outsource sections to contractors. A lot of the stuff has nothing to do with actually improving safety, there is either a bigger plan behind all this, or it is in fact the result from overzealus safety reps that make life as hard as possible for everyone, or it is just plain stupidity.
The example with signs "To use the handrails when using stairs" and safety articles with the same content is true, believe it or not! I mean, has the last tiny bit of common sense gone out the window???
Or maybe it is really all just a product or litigation threats and insurance or work cover issues. I do not know. All i know is that is a bloody pain in the
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QANTAS'S occupational health and safety policies have been ramped up to ridiculous levels by over-zealous reps, or so we hear from frustrated Qantas staff.
The obsession with safety, which has spread from the appropriate maintenance centres into office areas, has reached the point that workers are apparently grumbled at for the most minor of issues.
One Qantas Eye reader tells us he was even told off for not holding on to the handrail when descending a flight of stairs.
And then there's the dozens of aircraft-shaped stress balls promoting Qantas's safety slogan, "Safe Airline for Everyone", that infiltrated the offices during the recent Safety Week.
So imagine our reader's bemusement when a Qantas memo arrived in his inbox last week, alerting staff to the dangers of the safety stress balls.
"Potential Choking Hazard," the memo declared.
"In the interest of safety, we are making all employees aware that the orange stress airplane distributed during Safety Week should not be given to young children.
"There have been two reported incidents of infants being at risk of choking after breaking off parts of the plane. This is a timely reminder that vigilance is required with young children and small colourful objects."
Timely indeed.
So very true, it is in fact getting rediculous to the max, it appears the whole safety push is a deception just to make the operation as slow and inefficient as humanly possible just to outsource sections to contractors. A lot of the stuff has nothing to do with actually improving safety, there is either a bigger plan behind all this, or it is in fact the result from overzealus safety reps that make life as hard as possible for everyone, or it is just plain stupidity. The example with signs "To use the handrails when using stairs" and safety articles with the same content is true, believe it or not! I mean, has the last tiny bit of common sense gone out the window???
Or maybe it is really all just a product or litigation threats and insurance or work cover issues. I do not know. All i know is that is a bloody pain in the
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Don't go near Easterns, boys. You'll get nailed by the "Regulatory affairs manager" for leaving your nav bag in the wrong part of the crewroom! 
Tripping Hazard!
The only one's tripping are the blokes up in the Art Gallery
Oh, they have put grip-tape and appropriate signage on the stairway up to the Art Gallery
That's gotta work for the boys.
Tripping Hazard! The only one's tripping are the blokes up in the Art Gallery
Oh, they have put grip-tape and appropriate signage on the stairway up to the Art Gallery
That's gotta work for the boys.
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Yes, being observed ascending a flight of stairs with 2 bags (one over the shoulder providing free hand to hold rail). Was suggested it better to make two trips with one bag each time. Response - then it would be twice more likely to fall on stairs doing two trips and also leaving bag at top and bottom is trip hazard. Response - nick off smart @#%&.
Ah yes - but what about the security breach when leaving one bag unattended at the bottom of the stairs in order to correctly ascend the stairs carrying one bag at a time leaving the other arm free to hold the rail.
Does this mean that the workplace is inaccessable and I won't have to go to work tomorrow?
Does this mean that the workplace is inaccessable and I won't have to go to work tomorrow?
Nunc est bibendum
lol. I was just wondering earlier today when I would read about this classic bit of OH&S waffle. An example such as this is just way too good to be true- except it IS true! 
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Just cause some staff has got a chip on there back cause they have been caught it doesnt meen safety isnt important. Take a look at the LTI level today (lost time injury) compared to 10 years ago. I appluad management for making the workplace safer and i think we should all value the importance of this.
If they were serious about safety, they wouldn't allow their crews to climb into an aeroplane and disappear into the wild blue yonder! 
Think about it. Every time you get into one you may never be seen again!
Think about it. Every time you get into one you may never be seen again!
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point taken
mr QF you do have a valid point. however, sometimes you have to realise there is an "overkill" on minor issues where major issues like aircrew fatigue, aircraft interior design, medical issues etc. are conviniently been put in the too hard basket.
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Originally Posted by Mr Qantas
Just cause some staff has got a chip on there back cause they have been caught it doesnt meen safety isnt important. Take a look at the LTI level today (lost time injury) compared to 10 years ago. I appluad management for making the workplace safer and i think we should all value the importance of this.
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Originally Posted by Mr Qantas
Just cause some staff has got a chip on there back cause they have been caught it doesnt meen safety isnt important. Take a look at the LTI level today (lost time injury) compared to 10 years ago. I appluad management for making the workplace safer and i think we should all value the importance of this.
Ahh yes Mr Q, but it all depends on what the company defines as a "Lost Time Injury" and to what lengths they will go so as to fudge the figures. I agree O.H and S is important, but to link management bonusus to this sham of a system while all around the rest of Rome is burning............
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Rome is Burning...? 
I am off for violin lessons
LTIs are reduce by taxiing people into work whom have a work related injury but cannot perform their duties to sign a time sheet then taxied home.
FACT !!!
I am off for violin lessons
LTIs are reduce by taxiing people into work whom have a work related injury but cannot perform their duties to sign a time sheet then taxied home.
FACT !!!
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The fundamental problem with cost-benefit reasoning on this score, however, is that it mis-represents the issue. By challenging democracy to yield utilitarian results, advocates presume the normative legitimacy of the criterion on net benefit while completely devaluing democratic results. It is as though the choice of democracy were inherently utilitarian. The possibility that decisions arrived at through democratic participation and consent could be valued in themselves independently of their economic implications is simply not recognizable from a cost-benefit perspective.
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ROTFLMAO
Hook, line and sinker Mr. Qantas. You must be low to middle management judging by your spelling
I think CashKing might send it back to HANOI, rather than Holland (read his profile) cough cough Bloody furball.....................
Hook, line and sinker Mr. Qantas. You must be low to middle management judging by your spelling
I think CashKing might send it back to HANOI, rather than Holland (read his profile)
cough cough Bloody furball.....................
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LTI
WHat a faarrrking joke.
People are still being injured and people are still on workcover, they have reduced their LTI by making people do useless tasks in the mail room and other areas.
Its true, they send a taxi to your home, you get to work and sign a sheet after an hour or so, sometimes more, you are taxied home, its a fact! therefore no LTI as you are at work.
This whole people safe thing is the biggest joke ever, the equipment onboard the aircraft is worse than ever and people are being injured.
Half the time they wont fill out that rediculous repetitive form, again no LTI.
Mr Qantas, what frigging world do you live in!
WHat a faarrrking joke.
People are still being injured and people are still on workcover, they have reduced their LTI by making people do useless tasks in the mail room and other areas.
Its true, they send a taxi to your home, you get to work and sign a sheet after an hour or so, sometimes more, you are taxied home, its a fact! therefore no LTI as you are at work.
This whole people safe thing is the biggest joke ever, the equipment onboard the aircraft is worse than ever and people are being injured.
Half the time they wont fill out that rediculous repetitive form, again no LTI.
Mr Qantas, what frigging world do you live in!
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QF OH&S is a sham as someone pointed out.
Example.. Blocking of anything of any safety importance that required capital to be spent in H245 in the last 18 months.
Making guys work on half assed scaffolding to do major rework on Rolls Royce interservices areas when a good designed stand had been developed is a classic. Thanks D.Cox.
Safety Glasses for one work area and not for the other.
Bump Hats for the other and not for one.
Pedestrians keeping on the crossings instead of cars keeping on the roads.
The inconsistancies are embarrassing.
No rescue procedures for people in fall restraint devices.
Crappy tank rescue procedures and equipment.
Inconsistant licencing and training requirements for mobile equipment.
(Who has a mobile crane licence and also has a Heavy Vehicle licence to drive the damn thing?).
Which Crane drivers have had the extra training required by work cover after the toppling incident last year and the crane mods?
The list goes on and on,but what ever you do make sure you hold that hand rail.
Example.. Blocking of anything of any safety importance that required capital to be spent in H245 in the last 18 months.
Making guys work on half assed scaffolding to do major rework on Rolls Royce interservices areas when a good designed stand had been developed is a classic. Thanks D.Cox.
Safety Glasses for one work area and not for the other.
Bump Hats for the other and not for one.
Pedestrians keeping on the crossings instead of cars keeping on the roads.
The inconsistancies are embarrassing.
No rescue procedures for people in fall restraint devices.
Crappy tank rescue procedures and equipment.
Inconsistant licencing and training requirements for mobile equipment.
(Who has a mobile crane licence and also has a Heavy Vehicle licence to drive the damn thing?).
Which Crane drivers have had the extra training required by work cover after the toppling incident last year and the crane mods?
The list goes on and on,but what ever you do make sure you hold that hand rail.
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The upshot is that in most "preservation" versus "use" debates, society has NOT distinguished "ends" in order of importance--therefore economics has little to say. It may be more useful to say that when and where debates rage over any social-choice topic, economics can not resolve such debates because the body-politic has not appropriately sorted ENDS relative to one another and relative to means to each end. About all economics can do is to help cost out alternative courses of action, and can do even this only if agreement can be reached as to what might be included as costs and receipts in any such analysis.
Mr Q
I have heard, on good authority too, that all this hoopla is skewed by other forms of devious accounting. QF has lots of 'contractors' on site throughout the organisation; catering, engineering, cleaners etc. The work done by contractors is counted towards the productivity and man-day stats, but injuries incurred by them don't count; that's their own employer's problem in Work Cover reports, not QF's! It helps things look a lot healthier than is really the case don't you think? Still, it makes it easier to reach KPIs and hence bonuses come easier. I try not to be cynical, I really do.