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Old 15th Apr 2006, 22:54
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I suggest you take a good look at the finacial reports, Chook make the most after tax profit for Air NZ (remember to take into account there relitavly low overheads compared to bigger brother). Its been well known for years that money bleeds from the Long Haul and trans tasman operations while the domestic fleets are making the coin
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Old 16th Apr 2006, 09:57
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probably because, give or take half a dozen qantas 737's on the main trunk line, the domestic outfit has little competition
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Old 16th Apr 2006, 16:55
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Seems a little pointless as to who,s making and not making money,if you think you know where it all goes,would be interested to hear.....

Contracts are contracts,and mgt needs to adhere them....we follow your rules,fly the A/C the way you want us to fly them,....mgt should abide by the contracts the signed off on...if things change,which they all do,side-letters(to the contract)are signed off,with the participation all parties involved(yeah right!!!!)

Being a fairly small pilot group,the chook pilots obviously dont have a lot of resources at hand,pilot strength wise or $$$$$ wise,but there are ways to bring mgt kuri closer to their kness.....take a close look at some of Delta airlines tactics,and yes they are a much bigger airline with a lot more clout,but there tactics have also worked for smaller entities .

I think it has been proven ,thats strikes in the end, very seldom have worked in the favour of the pilot groups,ie American,Ansett,and countless others.
Better to be at work,getting a paycheck,and benefits(if any) than to be on the street,sitting around like a spare pr#ck at a party.

Union and pilot groups are only as strong and effective as there membership,those that participate, as opposed to those that come to work, get a paycheck,go home and refuse to contribute to the larger cause,and you will always have that type on member.Hopefully at chook,they are united and have strong participation.Strike Action should be the last resort
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Old 16th Apr 2006, 19:32
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forgot to mention:

If our Chook brothers and sisters do go on stike,please let me know,as the Ex-Eastern pilot that does my gardening and yardwork is about to retire....Ill be looking for someone to replace him!!....
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Old 20th Apr 2006, 18:29
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Hans Blix,

I would bed to differ there. If you go back to the days of competition with Ansett NZ (R.I.P), without stepping on toes, there was often much talk about the relative profitibility of the Air NZ domestic operation. At the time Air NZ used to often show in it's annual that in spite of it's majority share of the domestic main trunk market, it didn't make much of a profit on domestic maintrunk turnover at all. From memory around 3-4% for most of the 90's. And this is back when it was operating ancient outdated third-world -200's and on the books they would have been pretty cheap.
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Old 20th Apr 2006, 19:56
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90's may have been the 90's, but today Hans Blix has hit the nail on the head
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Old 22nd Apr 2006, 20:27
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If the long haul fleet didn't bring the passengers in to the country in the first place, then the domesic operation would have significantly fewer people to fly around anyway, so then nobody would be making money..
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Old 29th Apr 2006, 05:28
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Still working, still on strike, doing no overtime

I hear the boys and girls at Mt Cook are on strike well into June. Still not working on their days off. Lots of flights being cancelled because of sickness and only a few scallywags to do the work. What are the customers being told? Bet they don't know the pilots have withdrawn their labour. Hear tell they are arguing over about 100k and want some decent travel to simulator in Bangkok. Not economy that they are being offered at the moment. Air New Zealand management must be nuts not to look after these pilots who are one of the cash cows of the Air NZ group.
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Old 30th Apr 2006, 20:24
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I'm shocked they don't already get business class travel to Hong Kong. Any similar employee in a non-aviation company would expect business class for a long-haul, business related trip.

Even the Eagle contract contains the clause: Flights longer than four hours shal be business class or equivalent.

Although they don't seem to be putting this into practice with the new hires when there is no space available
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Old 1st May 2006, 03:50
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I hear the boys and girls at Mt Cook are on strike well into June. Still not working on their days off.
Surely not working on your days off and not working when you're on annual leave isn't considered bone fide strike action. Clearly the lads and lasses at Chook bend over backwards to keep that place running smoothly. What's the hold up???? Economy travel for over 20 hours travel to a sim detail-nonsense and 100 grand (I'm assuming you mean over the pilot group and not each Eureka!) Peanuts!!! The Mt Cook Maestro is conducting very well indeed!!!
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Old 2nd May 2006, 16:19
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exactly....."on strike"...gimme a break!!!
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