ALAEA impotence (merged)
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I would like to know why when the ALAEA and the company went on their Jolly world discovery trips a few years ago, they made a point of NOT going to Asia to see how they did it. They would go to any airline in the States and come back advocating we use the Worlds Best Practises based on the American model, now all of a sudden Asia is the flavour of the month.
Well I can tell you that the Asian Model doesn't look at reducing the number of ants crawlling over an Aircraft during a transit or Hangar check they actually use approx. double the man hours. The saving is in the pay scales, and from my experience there is a move amongst asian workers to push for better pay and conditions. So wouldn't it be ironical if they went to Asia for cheaper maintenance and it turned around and bit them in the wallet.
Chinese workers working for SASCO are asking for the same pay and conditions as those given to western contract staff. China might be coming out of the dark ages but they catch on fast. So I see the push to asia being only a temporary one and once the high paid LAE has retired and put his feet up the jobs will come back to Aus, at a reduced cost to the company.
The Airlines will be begging for staff to come out of retirement within 5 to 10 years is my prediction, so enjoy your holiday and in the mean time get a day job.
Well I can tell you that the Asian Model doesn't look at reducing the number of ants crawlling over an Aircraft during a transit or Hangar check they actually use approx. double the man hours. The saving is in the pay scales, and from my experience there is a move amongst asian workers to push for better pay and conditions. So wouldn't it be ironical if they went to Asia for cheaper maintenance and it turned around and bit them in the wallet.
Chinese workers working for SASCO are asking for the same pay and conditions as those given to western contract staff. China might be coming out of the dark ages but they catch on fast. So I see the push to asia being only a temporary one and once the high paid LAE has retired and put his feet up the jobs will come back to Aus, at a reduced cost to the company.
The Airlines will be begging for staff to come out of retirement within 5 to 10 years is my prediction, so enjoy your holiday and in the mean time get a day job.
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And to be honest it is completely unfair to ask H/M to prove their competitivness against an o/s MRO when QF itself doesnt know how much it costs to produce an aircraft.
The new Manager came down to the troops and told them that they were undertaking a major effort to "capture" all of the costs of producing an A/C.
Can someone tell me why the hell they didn't already know this?
What has the Snr H/M manager been doing all these years?
Concentrating on bases in AVV and BNE but ignoring the fundementals of the main H/M base.
It's an absolute disgrace.
The new Manager came down to the troops and told them that they were undertaking a major effort to "capture" all of the costs of producing an A/C.
Can someone tell me why the hell they didn't already know this?
What has the Snr H/M manager been doing all these years?
Concentrating on bases in AVV and BNE but ignoring the fundementals of the main H/M base.
It's an absolute disgrace.
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I guess I'm not surprised that QF has a rotten job costing system. That would be a hangover from the old public service days I suppose.
At Ansett we costed to component and job card level and I analysed the whole f&*$ing lot every month, complete with labour hours variances and rate variances - all without a PC!
Budget and actuals were within ten percent every year. I know, because I produced them.
At Ansett we costed to component and job card level and I analysed the whole f&*$ing lot every month, complete with labour hours variances and rate variances - all without a PC!
Budget and actuals were within ten percent every year. I know, because I produced them.
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On a similar note....
Why has there not been one peep or complaint about the A330 maintenance being done in Zurich.
They were originally sent there due to the Brisbane hangar late completion at the hangar constucters expence.
The hangar is finished and the docking fits A330 and 767, There are appropriate licensed people to certify etc etc.
What is going on !!!!!
Why has there not been one peep or complaint about the A330 maintenance being done in Zurich.
They were originally sent there due to the Brisbane hangar late completion at the hangar constucters expence.
The hangar is finished and the docking fits A330 and 767, There are appropriate licensed people to certify etc etc.
What is going on !!!!!
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Another thing i'd like to see is a managers job tied to his performance ie if the section closes down .... he goes too. Instead of going sideways into a cushy position where he can stuff the lives of another 1000 staff.
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Im with you turbo if a manager sends a section down the river the whole magement team should go. did they fail to lead or were they sent to do a job?(hachet) .Qantas always had a problem with hidden agendas
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Originally Posted by Apophis
Has anyone wondered how some of the people at avalon with non English speaking backgrounds who can hardly speak English now let alone write it are completing the job cards they are signing for let alone reading the M.M.understanding it and working to it.
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Originally Posted by BHMvictim
You tell us Apophis... you work there!
then someone has to come along remove it get the prior work done and reinstall it.
How QF gets away this gets me.
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I did spend some time in Avalon, and I agree, there are several persons working there whos ability to comprehend job cards/MM references would be questionable. To a lesser extent, same goes for a few I worked with in Sydney.
Is this a sign of things to come??
Maybe maintenance will stay in Australia!
After all, howard has been bringing in skilled migrants for quite some time. Their English too would be questionable! They are all biding their time as cleaners and taxi drivers. Once the IR reforms begin, they can all step into our jobs at a lower rate of pay! Thanks Howard.
Is this a sign of things to come??
Maybe maintenance will stay in Australia!
After all, howard has been bringing in skilled migrants for quite some time. Their English too would be questionable! They are all biding their time as cleaners and taxi drivers. Once the IR reforms begin, they can all step into our jobs at a lower rate of pay! Thanks Howard.
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Rubbish
Originally Posted by No SAR No Details
Can anyone on the forum confirm or deny that the AWU are openly seeking to bargin away Qantas workers rights and conditions of employment by lowering the bar in the chase for an EBA in Avalon?
Rumours are rife that this wheeling and dealing is going on as we speak with the AWU actively seeking to undermine their own members conditions in order to secure an agreement at all costs even if it means selling off conditions to do it.
Rumours are rife that this wheeling and dealing is going on as we speak with the AWU actively seeking to undermine their own members conditions in order to secure an agreement at all costs even if it means selling off conditions to do it.
not like the ALAEA they tell everyone what they want after they have already made the deal with Qantas and Forstaff.
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just like the last Qantas EBA,they only showed their faces when the deal was done,not once did they consult with the workforce,then they went around to all the ports telling everone how happy H.M was with the deal(re the O/T bank),then when they did show their faces at HM they where crucified.
I suppose this is why managment are now trying to wipe out the LAME's within Qantas because they know that the membership is about to wipe out these turds in the ALAEA exec,in which their places will be filled by people who actually care about the people they represent and the industry at large,not a bunch of self serving fools
I suppose this is why managment are now trying to wipe out the LAME's within Qantas because they know that the membership is about to wipe out these turds in the ALAEA exec,in which their places will be filled by people who actually care about the people they represent and the industry at large,not a bunch of self serving fools
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Bill Shorten
Originally Posted by Apophis
now bs of the AWU is going to run for the labour party pre selection how intrested is he going to be in any of this.
