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Old 13th Jan 2006, 15:20
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Re: Adelaide's terminal to open on Dec 21st

why bother, at this rate its probably better to just bulldoze the new terminal, the surrounding area, the area next to that, the bit just north of Bradman drive, the bit south of Bradman drive, the bit east of Bradman crescent, the bit NE of Bradman court, the bit East of Bradman Avenue, the bit ............. well you get the idea about A-dull-ade.........................
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Had to laugh on a recent trip to SA where the state governments tv advertising of how wonderful the state is involves lots of CGI shots of people getting off planes and walking across aerobridges on their way to various SA events........
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Adelaide a world best city to live in
By LAURA ANDERSON
16jan06

WHILE it may have become less attractive to tourists, Adelaide is actually one of the world's most "liveable" cities, according to a worldwide survey.
International business publication The Economist has named Adelaide as one of the world's most desirable places to live, in an international survey of 127 cities.

Adelaide was ranked alongside Sydney and Perth in equal fifth place, with Vancouver topping the list.
Premier Mike Rann said the survey results were further recognition of Adelaide as a world-class destination. In November, Adelaide was also named as one of the world's best business destinations in The Economist.
"The Economist joins respected organisations such as the Australian Industry Group and KPMG in confirming Adelaide's status as one of the world's best cities in which to live and do business," Mr Rann said.
Deputy Lord Mayor Cris Magasdi agreed, saying that Adelaide was " a great city to live in".
"Adelaide is great, the prices are good and the housing availability is very good," he said.
"We have everything working for us here.
"I have just come back from overseas and even Americans are beginning to realise how good Adelaide is.
"We are starting to get a very good name."
Tourism industry leaders have recently raised concerns about a decline in tourist numbers to South Australia.
However, the study - conducted by the Economic Intelligence Unit - found Adelaide ranked well in categories of stability, health care, culture and environment, education and infrastructure.
Mr Rann said "factors including our triple-A credit rating, the strength of the state economy, our record low levels of unemployment, and our success in winning major projects help to make Adelaide a very attractive destination".
The survey found that Australia "has some of the most liveable places in the world", with Melbourne ranking second overall.
"Perth, Adelaide and Sydney join Zurich, Toronto and Calgary in joint 5th place," the report says. "Just below this is Brisbane in joint 11th place."
Although I am an Victorian and it hurts me to post this. I'm sick of the Adelaide negativity on this so called professional forum!

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Although I am an Victorian and it hurts me to post this. I'm sick of the Adelaide negativity on this so call professional foum!
ALL yours 7gcbc
The 19 million Australians that don't live in Adelaide, can't all be wrong!!

According to your story, whilst very livable, Adelaide still rates behind Melbourne and several other places. It does make a good case for Australia though, that nearly all our state capitals are in the top ten!!

So much for "Brisevegas"!!
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Phil Baker, the CEO of AAL was interviewed on ABC radio this morning. He is now saying that the terminal will probably not be operational until late February or even March!
He was asked who he was going to sue, but of course he was very cagey. He did admit that the lengthy delay was hurting financially. He talked about the pipes laying in open trenches during construction and picking up foreign matter including dirt and water.
One would have to question the engineering methods used. The delays are disgraceful and embarrassing for anyone involved in the aviation industry and of course for the travelling public.
By the way, that ongoing debate (above) regarding the merits or otherwise of living in Adelaide is very boring and irrelevant. I would urge people not to get involved in such puerile rubbish.
However, knowing what titillates some of the posters here I expect my pleas will fall on some deaf ears.
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apologies, I don't wish to gloat so I'll stop right there.

Laura Anderson ? surely not of Adelaide Advertiser Fame ? did not have to google far to come up with this gem:

Mediawatch :

On 8 November 2004 we ticked off the Adelaide Advertiser for their front-page splash on literacy:

First Class Child literacy rates hit highest level By Greg Kelton and Laura Anderson A record number of primary school students in South Australia is now reading, writing and spelling better than ever before. -The Advertiser, 27 October 2004, page 1.

Is? Is? A record number of kiddies ARE reading, writing and spelling better than ever before. And the sooner they grow up and get jobs at the Advertiser, the better for all concerned.




The report is here : http://store.eiu.com/index.asp?layou...s_id=660001866

Key factor in influencing the choice ? Safety from terrorism, the Advertiser butters it up though, adding pieces that were not in the original report, and KPMG ? well what can we say about a company that has changed its name to Bearing Point to distance itself from its dishonest past in the US.


You're right , I'll stop now.......don't want that smoke to dissipate and those mirrors to break

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From the front page of this weeks Adelaide Independent Weekly.
"Continuing blunders on the ground at Adelaide airport"

"Qantaslink aircraft using Adelaides trouble plagued new terminal are unable to park close to their regional passenger gate becuase of a blunder over tarmac quality. The airlines Dash 8 aircraft are too heavy to park on designated Qantaslink bays...."

"Qantas executive general manager of regional airlines...., says Qantaslink Dash 8 aircraft operations were not aniticpated when the terminal was being built. However the independent weekly understands National jet systems was considering using the terminal for Dash 8's and provision for the heavier aircraft was still not made."

"Rex managing director ...... told the Independent weekly that passenger convenience had been indentified as a major issue when the terminal was in its initial design phase, but " no one wanted to listen". "What angers us most is that passengers are now blaming us.""

"Rex is pushing the airport to build another travelator and provide a shuttle bus"

I have seen Mobil pumping in a couple of new spots landside this week. The first is opposite the old airport club and the second is by Targets depot over by Sir Donald Bradman drive. Just a very rough guess but are they trying to identify which specific parts of the pipe is contaminated. If they can will digging up and replacing a small section appease the airlines or will AAL have to dig the whole thing up regardless. Any experts out their???
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First Class Child literacy rates hit highest level By Greg Kelton and Laura Anderson A record number of primary school students in South Australia is now reading, writing and spelling better than ever before. -The Advertiser, 27 October 2004, page 1.
Is? Is? A record number of kiddies ARE reading, writing and spelling better than ever before.
I may be wrong but as the article refers to a singular number of students, (ie 'a record number') the correct grammar would be 'is'. If the number of students was plural, you would say they 'are' (ie record numbers of students are...'). sound ok?
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as a canetoad living is sa .. let me say that it aint too bad here.
Houses are cheap. .... um thats about it ...
Its dry, the beer has floaty bits in it, worst drivers in aust, but apart from that it is just like darwin ... beautiful beaches, but if you go swimming you die.
maybe the airport should have consulted IKEA to help them in the construction of the terminal.
Lets just hope it's not "terminal"ly ill
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.. , worst drivers in aust,
thats pretty rich coming from a Queenslander
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ABC 7.30 Report had a segment on the Adelaide Airport terminal problems tonight. Had to feel sorry for the manager Phil Baker. He is wearing all the flack. Although the Premier sounded pretty pissed off too. Guess he would with an election looming.
Seems the piping contract was sub contracted along the way and the report claimed the technology used had never been used in aviation before....mmmm
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any new progress?.... guess not...

Have been on holidays overseas for a couple of weeks, so am pretty excited about arriving back this weekend into the new terminal through the eyes of an international traveler arriving in adelaide for the first time in the new terminal. Am wondering what the arrivals/customs process is like, and what the feel is like in the arrivals hall. I'll be keeping notes... hehe
The departure process was alright, altho there were some things that could definately be improved on... (i'll ramble about them all in one post when i return to adelaide)
Although am still dissapointed, like everyone else i'm sure, that domestic operations are still at the old terminal, just means it'll be back to old routines and nothing new when i get back to work
Went to check out some reports to see if any new progress has been made, and stumbled across this report, probably a few days old for people in Adelaide, but the device used for cleaning the fuel pipes had shattered?
The story found on The Australian here :
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...E23349,00.html
Oh well.. poor Baker, and the whole AAL team, does seem like they were jinxed from the start... but that'll teach them for cost cutting and rushing things...hehe
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am pretty excited about arriving back this weekend into the new terminal through the eyes of an international traveler arriving in adelaide
Well, you'll just love it after your preamble in DRW waiting in the aerobridge at 5am.

Of course, if your reply is something like 'missing DRW' on the way in then we know you're on another carrier that missed the tight security in the north, and progressed clear across the nation despite it.

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Had to feel sorry for the manager Phil Baker
I don't. The whole issue has been handled very badly. The continual yes we are opening followed shortly thereafter by no we are not, stinks of incompetence and bad management.
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From Crikey.com

12. Adelaide's new airport not landing anytime soon

Allan Calleja, in Adelaide, writes:

The latest revelations about Adelaide's officially opened, yet not quite fully functioning, you beaut pride and joy airport are just adding contaminated fuel to the fire of rumours.

“All that stuff about contaminated fuel lines it's just a smokescreen,” says one construction industry insider. The public's been told since October that the problem was only days away from being fixed but it's now harder than ever to ignore the rumours that Qantas has briefed its staff to the effect that there'll be no move into the new building until at least March.

The word is that some of the floors in the walkways are warped, windows pop in the heat, security doors won't shut and the software involved in the new building doesn't work. But wait, there's more. Since November, construction industry insiders have been saying Adelaide Airport has been trying to delay the inevitable rather than immediately do what's needed which is dig up the fuel line and replace it because it's been laid wrongly.

The Adelaide Advertiser reported at the weekend that Rex Airlines, which moved in months ago, has written to Adelaide Airport and MPs comparing walkways “ to prison walkways and cattle ramps” and complaining of “gross errors in planning and actual construction.”

That adds to the other rumour that the construction was rush job. Airport management had made a big song and dance that the construction was six months ahead of schedule. Passengers can expect more delays.

Channel 10 reported last week that International airlines would be using the re fuelling hydrants within 2 weeks. Well see whose correct!!
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First Time Arrival in New Terminal

Well, Arrived back in Adelaide's New Terminal this past weekend from overseas which was a nice thing. I can't say there's too much to comment about it that hasn't been said already before.
Exiting the Aircraft into the glass aerobridge was cool, it was nice to look around a bit after being in a 8-9 hour flight. I couldn't but help wonder tho if only 1 aerobridge per gate would be enough. I know we currently don't have 747 Passanger jets into adelaide, and i highly doubt we'd ever get the A380's into adelaide (even tho they claim the airport is A380 Equiped)
but if we do, would 1 aerobridge be enough for big jets?

anyways, upon exiting the aerobridge, i was dissapointed to see that all there was to greet International arrival passengers was a LONG White hallway with....NOTHING...Literally a long narrow hall walkway with white walls... you think they'd put up maybe Pictures of Adelaide, the barossa or pictures around SA, or even just advertisements or SOMETHING to lighten up the dull boring white corridor...but nothing...just a plain white wall...
There weren't even windows or anything to look out, and the only windows were these small ones that did nothing for the view. Anyways, ground staff greeted passangers for Transfers and directed them into another door while others walked to the customs area, or got sucked into the last attempt at your money...the duty free area.

The customs process was a fairly quick process for me (thanks to a free upgrade to Business Class), i literally walked right up to the counter and got through in under a minute. Not too sure what the wait would of been like for the people near the last rows of the aircraft tho. Didn't really seem like they had more customs counters than the old terminal? But i can't really remember now..

After customs, you come down stairs or escalators to the the arrivals courasel Hall area which was quite spacious. A big hall, but once again, dissapointingly BARE! A BIG WHITE room with again... nothing...
It seemed spacious with only our flight in the hall, but once again, i'm not sure what it'd be like if they had more than one flight in, or a 747.

****I would like to make one comment to Anyone who may be able to change this who may be happening to read this.***
I was more than happy to see that they had the only "Emergency Exit Door" barricaded with Luggage, Trolleys, and Rope in front of the door way NOT...
I would like to think they would keep the Only Emergency Exit (that i could see) CLEAR of obstacles, Especially the Customs Rope (whatever u call it). The Emergency Exit door im referring to is the one directly in front of the esculators/stairs as you come down them from the customs area. Next to the Customer Service Area for Baggage. If anyone could change this, or would this require a call to someone at AAL?

Anyways, back to track, after picking up my luggage, i came upon the Quarantine Area. This is one area that has been improved from the past i reccon. There definately was more quarantine officers checking luggage, and once again, it didn't take long to clear this area as i had no major things to declare. It seems like they are screening everyone now, and you didn't have the option of having things to Declare or Not. You go through the same path, and a custom official directs you down 1 of 3 paths to different quarantine areas. It seems like they have this process down pretty good.

Lastly, exiting the Quarantine Area, i went through the sliding doors, Only to be greeted by... a WHITE WALL Grrr... you think they'd again paint something like, Welcome to Adelaide......or SOMETHING on the wall. But no, you're faced with a white wall, turn right and then there are all the families and people waiting in the corner for the Arrival passengers. Like said before in a previous post, this area was badly designed. Definately not enough room for all the people waiting and arriving. Bad BAD design...

Anyways, that's my ramp for the day...
Oh, i read today in the Advertiser (Feb 7) that Rex have put some sort of ultimatom down to AAL, either improve certain things (not too sure what exactly, but you can pretty much guess) or they will Move back to the Old Terminal? I think that would totally be a slap in the face for AAL if REX move back into the old terminal...hehe

That was my experience for my first arrival in the New Terminal, i guess we only can sit and wait to see when domestic operations will start

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The Adelaide Advertiser reported at the weekend that Rex Airlines, which moved in months ago, has written to Adelaide Airport and MPs comparing walkways “ to prison walkways and cattle ramps” and complaining of “gross errors in planning and actual construction.”

Rex were having a grizzle before the first sod was dug, writing to all the regional councils.
Rex pax should be grateful that the walkways are fully covered, cos I think at one stage they were just going to be a roof and one side.
I wonder if they are more concerned that QLink pax don't have anywhere the distance to walk to the terminal at the other end?????

Agree that all the travelators should have been put in from the outset, but the distances aren't that much different to MEL/SYD where they also fly.

I'm surprised that they didnt stay in the old/current terminal where they would have had much more control over their destiny and had a shuttle bus go backwards and forwards (or should that be forwards and backwards) to the new terminal. I don't think that their oncarriage is huge.

From a regional perspective, having to clear security with its charge it get into the terminal is more of an issue for the pax.
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Well, just another prime example of cost cutting....
Esculators and all....
I'm surprised the walkways aren't even at least half seethrough like the Current Domestic Terminal with Glass sides or something. I have walked through the GA walkways and they do seem a bit small, and definately not a good feel for those who don't like cramped spaces. Plus the material they're built with, don't really ventaliate the heat during the summer.
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Initially I wondered how you can get sand, mud and foreign material inside a pristine new piece of fuel pipe.

One of the workers in the know spilled the beans in a fish wrapper I read a few days back.

According to the article, the pipes were allegedly laid in open trenches and left there for the welders to come along and join them. Then it rains and the trenches fill up with mud, sand and other contaminants.

Then, allegedly, the welders come along and do what welders do...weld.
Result... pipes full of crap that need to be cleaned out.

If this story is true the mind boggles at the standard of training and common sense of those involved. Good old Aussie engineering.
 
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What the fish wrapper says makes sense, however surely the pipes would have been given a 'flush' anyway as part of normal construction procedure? i.e. it wasn't omitted.

Sounds like there was just too much dirt/mud/crap.
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