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HI'er, you forgot to mention the responsibility for all the service industry people that lost their jobs because of the dispute.
I suppose you would say it was for the betterment of mankind, but I don't think they would have seen it that way
I suppose you would say it was for the betterment of mankind, but I don't think they would have seen it that way
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I would need several pages to notate the responsibility I accept for the VERY unfortunate events of 1989.
That the Australian Prime minister saw fit to inflict a protracted industrial dispute upon his country, for the INDIVIDUAL reward of a (relative) few - Himself, Murdoch, Abeles, the scabs - to the detriment of the MAJORITY, is something you need to talk to Bob about (and the ACU[n]T).
In a not dissimilar vein, if the "service industry people" couldn't see further than beyond their own noses, to make a stand, then they need to employ professional apologists, in my opinion.
In the majority of cases though, they CLEARLY saw that hawke was UNNECESSARILY prolonging an industrial dispute to massage his own ego, at the expense of the Australian tax payers.
(The truth is he was being treated for an impotence problem at the time - HINT : Research "Hazel Hawke, Blanche de Pulget, and impotence")
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HI'er et el
There is simply no difference between the promotion of better qualified pilots within J* Oz and the DE commands of Oz pilots in foreign airlines. That is the topic here, not '89.
The Impluse f/os will hopefully get their chance with the proposed growth and intro of the A330, just like the displaced f/os in the foreign airlines you mentioned.
I am not a J* pilot however, I do desire that the most quailfied pilot to be in the left seat when I am down the back.
There is simply no difference between the promotion of better qualified pilots within J* Oz and the DE commands of Oz pilots in foreign airlines. That is the topic here, not '89.
The Impluse f/os will hopefully get their chance with the proposed growth and intro of the A330, just like the displaced f/os in the foreign airlines you mentioned.
I am not a J* pilot however, I do desire that the most quailfied pilot to be in the left seat when I am down the back.
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Oh, it seems the likes of HI'er is really NOT from the real world, he is akin to a Zombie, being brain dead for many years brought back to life by some Voodoo priests.
Like other '89er Zombies, there is no point in reasoniong with them, or argue logic, these people just walk around blindly with dead eyes just following orders and believing their own mythology as peddled by their beloved AFAP.
They don't care who's life they have messed up or ruined, they seem to have this Zombie outlook, they are the inocents who did no wrong and its all the fault of Hawke, Ables, Scabs, etc, etc, or any one else they can pin anything on.
Its a common thread is, it's never them, its always someone elses fault while they parade around as "holier than thou", one just needs to look at the list HI'er wrote on the other page is only a list of his own distorted beliefs that would very much appeal to other '89er Zombies, totally blind to the fact that most people don't agree with them.
But luckily people with reason and understanding went back to work, other employees within the airlines were so happy that new hires were comimg in as everybody had a gut full of these moronic bloody minded bastards ruining their lives.
I see it no more than the bizarre belief a scuicide bomber has that volunteers to blow themselves up for that great distorted Islamic cause that has festered in their minds, again reasonable and inteligent people cannot comprehend their motivation or logic that drives them, just like the '89er Zombies.
Like other '89er Zombies, there is no point in reasoniong with them, or argue logic, these people just walk around blindly with dead eyes just following orders and believing their own mythology as peddled by their beloved AFAP.
They don't care who's life they have messed up or ruined, they seem to have this Zombie outlook, they are the inocents who did no wrong and its all the fault of Hawke, Ables, Scabs, etc, etc, or any one else they can pin anything on.
Its a common thread is, it's never them, its always someone elses fault while they parade around as "holier than thou", one just needs to look at the list HI'er wrote on the other page is only a list of his own distorted beliefs that would very much appeal to other '89er Zombies, totally blind to the fact that most people don't agree with them.
But luckily people with reason and understanding went back to work, other employees within the airlines were so happy that new hires were comimg in as everybody had a gut full of these moronic bloody minded bastards ruining their lives.
I see it no more than the bizarre belief a scuicide bomber has that volunteers to blow themselves up for that great distorted Islamic cause that has festered in their minds, again reasonable and inteligent people cannot comprehend their motivation or logic that drives them, just like the '89er Zombies.
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Well now, reading all this some ??? come to mind.
Why would anyone think the HEROS from a previous situation would change their ways and means of getting ahead?
Why do we have divided sets of people in Aviation and many other Industries in Australia?
Why do we not find it amazing that the Labour party is against Individual Contracts, as they FORCED??? them on the willing/gullible returning and imported pilots?
Why does everyone cry about the terrible conditions and workplace pactices when they have signed the bottom line?
WE ARE WHAT WE ACCEPT!!!!!
Yes you can say I am on the moral high ground if you wish, I work under individual contracts, as does my wife, my employees and many of my friends. We are happy because we were content with the Contract.
I did not sign the others because they were not acceptable!!!
I still find employment requests for my services, so "holding out" has not caused any grief.
Yes, I am a non $c%b, ex Ansett pilot who has enjoyed Overseas Contracts since '89, I have returned to Aust, found acceptable positions and enjoy the so called retirement.
The wingers, backstabbers and low condition wingers are only getting what you signed!!!!!!
AS BEFORE, YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE, THEN AND NOW.
Cheers
Why would anyone think the HEROS from a previous situation would change their ways and means of getting ahead?
Why do we have divided sets of people in Aviation and many other Industries in Australia?
Why do we not find it amazing that the Labour party is against Individual Contracts, as they FORCED??? them on the willing/gullible returning and imported pilots?
Why does everyone cry about the terrible conditions and workplace pactices when they have signed the bottom line?
WE ARE WHAT WE ACCEPT!!!!!
Yes you can say I am on the moral high ground if you wish, I work under individual contracts, as does my wife, my employees and many of my friends. We are happy because we were content with the Contract.
I did not sign the others because they were not acceptable!!!
I still find employment requests for my services, so "holding out" has not caused any grief.
Yes, I am a non $c%b, ex Ansett pilot who has enjoyed Overseas Contracts since '89, I have returned to Aust, found acceptable positions and enjoy the so called retirement.
The wingers, backstabbers and low condition wingers are only getting what you signed!!!!!!
AS BEFORE, YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE, THEN AND NOW.
Cheers
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"luckily people with reason and understanding went back to work
Yes, the "reason" was the money, and the "understanding" was first in best dressed for rapid promotion.
Yes it did wonders fo Ansett alright - they went down the gurgler in double quick time, taking most of those "happy employees" money with it.
The Draculas were let loose in the Blood Bank, with only "Yes men" to keep them in check.
Overtime above 55 hours - what joke!
Yes, the "reason" was the money, and the "understanding" was first in best dressed for rapid promotion.
other employees within the airlines were so happy that new hires were comimg in as everybody had a gut full of these moronic bloody minded bastards ruining their lives.
The Draculas were let loose in the Blood Bank, with only "Yes men" to keep them in check.
Overtime above 55 hours - what joke!
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News just to hand, I heard that at least of the new Capts is not on "the List".
Shame that the resoned debate element evaporated with the arrival of the same old stuff, trotted out by the usual suspects.
(finger)News just to hand, I heard that at least of the new Capts is not on "the List".
Shame that the resoned debate element evaporated with the arrival of the same old stuff, trotted out by the usual suspects.
