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Old 10th Sep 2005, 02:39
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I'm just waiting to see what happens when a QF aircraft augers in.

Be it mainline, J*, or a regional, it WILL happen. The ENTIRE airline is sooooooo unhappy at the moment, it is only a matter of time before the result is a catastrophe. Mark these words.

The bean counters might be counting bodies instead. And I'm 100% certain they'll keep a very low profile, and disappear quietly with their respective bonus'. As will that b@stard, Dixon.

Gloomy prediction? Yes. But the way things are at the moment I'm absolutely amazed that anyone is doing their job properly.
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Old 10th Sep 2005, 07:40
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Sandy, I think that your post is a touch on the doomsday side and melodramatic...I believe that despite everything else, most people in aviation are professionals and very dedicted to their job.

Politics belong in the board room, not on the shop floor.

Its a high risk occupation and today's "right" answer can be tomorrows "wrong" answer.
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Old 10th Sep 2005, 09:53
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Quoting rescue 1

"I believe that despite everything else, most people in aviation are professionals and very dedicted to their job".

In my own words, QF will continue to operate safely and to the staffs best abilities (given reasonable resources), in spite of management attempts at running (down) the company just to get their KPI bonus'.

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Old 10th Sep 2005, 22:15
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hmmm

As one of the great unhappy, I see the same threats implied by the CP, the deputy CP the IR manager as they attempt to fatten the wallets and sell the bunch of S*it they and the AIPA union calls an EBA. I see the delivery of product to our customers drop as they persue cost reduction. Cost reduction in areas of administration will never be persued as management rely on these little bureacrats feed them their information. I see the litany of lies told by management including statements that all EBAs are signed off, jet* won't take mainline flying...It really makes me sad. Most of my colleagues feel the same way.

But the pricks will never stop me trying to operate safely, it isn't a question of working at mainline, or being a Qantas pilot it's an attitude that is formed way before the bean counters get their grubby fingers on an airline. Whilst management can kiss my a** I will keep flying safely, to the best of my ability..All their short term crap will pass when a new breed of manager tries to fix all the damage done. Hopefully we won't be too late.

In the interim I will take personal roster adjustments, I will do things when I am ready and never when they want it done..Colleagues have witnessed a three month delay in uniform rollouts but were receiving paper in mailslips telling us we needed to get measured up and fitted by June 30 for a changeover that iwas to occur July 1 yet is still to occur as of today's date.

The deputy CP and CP can imply all the threats they like, all the time the pilot group gets older, the airlines in asia, including China, Malaysia, Hong Kong, India and the like scream for crew....

The worm will turn!
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Old 10th Sep 2005, 22:43
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It's a sad indictement. I have ex AN friends flying for QF now and they say that the morale amongst tech crew is actually lower than Ansett's was in its dieing days.
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Old 11th Sep 2005, 00:23
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On Morale - an observation.

Over the last 5 years or so I have heard the airline pilots voices getting more miserable by the week. Thats if some some of them are actually awake enough to speak.

But being fair, the voices of the ATC are getting just as miserable, and just as tired.

Or maybe we are just all getting old and cranky - and tired of the transparent management tactics that are occurring to all of us. If this is the relaxed and comfortable society model that the little rodent spoke of - it doesn't sound like it in the voices of the relaxed and comfortable workers.
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Old 11th Sep 2005, 03:11
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The reason...

Goof Dixon has taken Qantas in a particular direction....he just forgot to invite the Qantas staff.
If Qantas was run by Branson...we would be paid less but be a lot happier.
Branson's foreplay is second to none
Maybe Goof should buy Branson's book.
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