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Old 13th Aug 2005, 12:37
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I do not understand all this anger directed toward hard working COM members. These guys have been trying to represent the members the best way they can and have been stifled by the leadership.

YES...there needs to be change at AIPA, that is obvious. The change needs to be made at the top though. At the person whose leadership style has led to the current state of anger.....THE PRESIDENT!!

This reform group is dividing the current COM with the message it is pushing that the entire COM is in need of change. This is CRAP and will only end up with a factionalised union and petty infighting.

Qantas bosses are LOVING this stuff and laughing themselves silly. What a joke!!

A new President...........YES!!!

A divided union..........the beginning of the end.

Don't judge a bunch of guys just because they didn't give a bloke a $1000 gift certificate.
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Old 13th Aug 2005, 21:17
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OK Shrags, if the COM elected the Pres, surely they can un-elect him.
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Old 13th Aug 2005, 23:32
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Don't judge a bunch of guys just because they didn't give a bloke a $1000 gift certificate.
If the COM is there to represent the membership, why didn't they respect the obvious wishes of the membership? It's a simple question.
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Old 14th Aug 2005, 00:20
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Life membership is there to honour those who contribute to AIPA the organisation. What this bloke has done is an absolute credit to him and his drive and passion on this issue.

He will not need to buy beers if I am around him at the bar. It is not a contribution to the organisation though! This is not sour grapes, he is rarely at COM meetings....check the attendances.

Also, speaking for myself, judging by the time and effort that this reform group has spent selling itself with aggresive posts on Qrewroom, websites and glossy hand-outs this is another well researched political stunt. This totally cheapens the point of this tribute of Life Membership. It is not about playing politics.

Direct the anger where it should be for all our sakes, not at the COM members but at the PRESIDENT.


chimbu

YES, they can un-elect him and will do so during this years election. Thank God there are one year terms. It would have happened last year if there was a fresh face to vote for.
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Old 14th Aug 2005, 00:57
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Doubt that IW will have the numbers on COM to be elected Pres this year. It will probably go to MB. IW will have to wait till next years elections to have enough of his "party" on COM.
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Old 14th Aug 2005, 01:33
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SHRAGS,

The COM voted in this president. The COM approved the EBA. The COM bowed on the Jetstar deal. The COM presided over the A330 debarcal (both pay/award and seniority). The COM is involved in the Whispering Campaign against IW.

Forget the life membership, that is only a small example of the COM's inability to listen, but petty regardless.

Now, just to be clear, by the COM I mean the COM as a body. Of course there are individuals, within the COM, that are excellent. They cannot be heard for all the fools. I hope that is what will change if this reform group can get up.

If COM members up for reelection (who are not part of the official reform group) want my vote then they will have to make it clear that they:

- Will not reelect RH.
- Did not recommend the EBA.
- Fought for a better deal re Jetstar.
- Would vote for IW to be president.

I will check the AIPA website, and the Qrewroom election soap box prior to voting to see who else I can add to my vote list.
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