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Old 30th Jun 2005, 05:55
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Still seems techies think they have the right when the hotel puts on complimentry drinks that they can pick up a bottle and head back to their room with it. F@#$kin tight a@#ses
Well of course we are, guilty as charged...as long as the accusation's not coming from cabin crew. (slam, click, crack open the Delsey full of instant noodles)
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Old 30th Jun 2005, 06:48
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Tit for Tat

Here we go again!!
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Old 30th Jun 2005, 14:46
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So Mr. Buzzy. We can take it that all Virgin pilots are perfect then can we?
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Old 30th Jun 2005, 20:14
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I can think of at least two straight away that are far from perfect.
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Old 1st Jul 2005, 03:06
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Sounds all a bit farcicle to me.
The number speak for themselves........2600 techies and shock horror, 2 incidents of fisticuffs and everyone is an expert on psychometric testing!

Mr Buzzy,as far as organisations go if VB ever got to the size of QF I guarantee you that there would be a percentage of pissed off individuals.
Who knows Mr Buzzy,you might be even whining about VB when it comes to promotion time or they cut wages/conditions.

As for flight attendants,I can think of a few thousand that would give it all to get a job with QF.
A recent career survey found that amongst twenty and thirty somethings in Oz the job as a F/A came out on top for females.

Says alot about the fellas I suppose!!
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Old 1st Jul 2005, 03:07
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Even with all the pressure AN staff were working under in the months leading up the stab in the back I don't recall the staff taking it out on each other. This must be music to the ears of QF management. Its a bit like watching the Labor party self destruct.
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Old 1st Jul 2005, 05:47
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Now Metro Boy, that's not a nice thing to say about Mr. Buzzy and DJ737.
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Old 1st Jul 2005, 06:51
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permFO, most of the ansett guys I have spoken to had little if any inkling of what was actually coming (or at the very least, ignored it & hoped it would go away) and remained blissfully unaware of the perilous situation they were in until it blew up around them.

Yet another meaningless comparison.
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Old 1st Jul 2005, 14:41
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I really think that any rationalisation for violence in the workplace belongs in a group therapy session somewhere and not being imparted as normal behaviour based upon statistics.

The fact that these overnights now have a confirmend pattern of alcohol consumption, followed by altercations that have become physical, it is time for QF management to take a hard look at employee conduct while in rest at the bequest of management and CASA.

If we get a further escalation of this behaviour, and somebody suffers a permanent disability...or even worse, can you imagine the media frenzy? And the court system will have a field day!

Qantas would be well advised to review their own liabilities with respect to a hostile workplace and duty of care.

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Old 3rd Jul 2005, 02:23
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Yawnn.......!!!

This is going nowhere, get a train to Santa Monica or elsewhere for god sake.....
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Old 3rd Jul 2005, 03:16
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Nah, you're right, there's nothing that can be done about it. They've all been psych' tested by that very reknown recruitment process. Let 'em beat it each other up, we'll just continue to rationalise the whole thing away. That should fix the problem.

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Old 3rd Jul 2005, 22:32
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Epirb and your mates,
No, Im sure not all VB pilots are perfect. Nobody said they were, especially themselves!

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Old 5th Jul 2005, 11:58
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Dutch Roll - I agree no-one saw or anticipated the final outcome with Ansett but nonetheless we were operating under the constant pressure of a business in a state of flux with a management relying on the staff goodwill instead of addressing the real problems (sound familiar). The point is that during that whole period of time I did not witness AN staff start to take things out on each other. I contrast this with what I did witness in QF where I saw a -400 Captain being physically restrained from venting his anger on a S/O who had the audacity to speak up about his views of the seniority system!
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 12:09
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Mr.Buzzy,

How much does one have to pay to be psychometrically assessed by these clowns?
Nowhere near as much as you "clowns" have to fork out for your shiny new 737 endorsements!

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Old 5th Jul 2005, 13:20
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permFO, "a S/O who had the audacity to speak up about his views of the seniority system!" - it seems to be those with the LEAST experience, have the MOST to say.
If you are accepted into Qantas, then you start at the basement, simply because you might have a "lot" of experience, but NONE of ot is in the Qantas system.
If you don't like it - or cant accept that - then buzz off to another company that also thinks YOU are the greatest thing since sliced bread.
But in the meantime, shutthte****up, and do your time, like everyone else has had to.
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 14:38
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Well said Ronnie. Pity it has to be said, but there you go!
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 20:53
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A First....

Here we go ..an internet punchup.
Testosterone is always inversely proportional to intellect.
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 21:21
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Nowhere near as much as you "clowns" have to fork out for your shiny new 737 endorsements!
So TL, how much does Daddy fork out for a "shiny new" cadetship these days?

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Old 5th Jul 2005, 21:30
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About the same as it cost you to learn fly Mr. Buzzy. Cadets are only an extremely small percentage of QF pilots.
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 22:52
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Ronnie Honker - You have just eloquently expressed the violence inherent in the system.
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