Virgin Taxis to Darwin GA
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Virgin Taxis to Darwin GA
A Vigin flight took a wrong turn at Darwin this morning and tried to taxi to the GA area. Crew heard to say " Woops I think I took the taxi way"
IF you are a pilot then you will know that taxying around an unfamiliar airport is actually one of the more difficult things to do.
What a ridiculous beat up this is.
I remember jumpseating on a CRJ with a German carrier into Fumicino several years ago. After the capt and FO had both studied the jepps and head scratching, they passed the jepps to me to see if I could find the parking bay we had been assigned.
I couldn't, and in the end Ground gave us directions. Hardly a safety issue.
ANd why do we need to hang sh!t on any company here? No wonder we are a nation of knockers and our industry is in the way its in.
What a ridiculous beat up this is.
I remember jumpseating on a CRJ with a German carrier into Fumicino several years ago. After the capt and FO had both studied the jepps and head scratching, they passed the jepps to me to see if I could find the parking bay we had been assigned.
I couldn't, and in the end Ground gave us directions. Hardly a safety issue.
ANd why do we need to hang sh!t on any company here? No wonder we are a nation of knockers and our industry is in the way its in.
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Big deal, this used to happen every day at JFK NY when we were there. 
I remember years ago doing exactly the same thing in a B727 at Townsville, NO worries, just stuck it in reverse........
I remember years ago doing exactly the same thing in a B727 at Townsville, NO worries, just stuck it in reverse........
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Who cares! As others have mentioned, this forum is quickly becoming a slagging ground for political grievances. It astounds me how many fellow aviators will jump on the bandwagon, and slag the opposition, or anyone for that fact. All pilots are human, humans make errors. That’s why we train. Wrong turn’s taxing at an unfamiliar airports are common, even by the most accomplished pilots. I’ve done it. Have you ? 
Steelcraft,
While not a DJ defender you must be very bored, and also one who never makes a mistake - be careful when you set a precident that is hard to maintain.
While not a DJ defender you must be very bored, and also one who never makes a mistake - be careful when you set a precident that is hard to maintain.
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Bugga, I told them to deliver it out the front of the hangar, Godfrey must have had a last minute change of mind... We were all looking forward to that 73...
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While anyone can make a mistake and taxying at night is never easy,the fact remains that certain individuals love to point out others shortcomings.
If there were pavement cracking or a runway incursion occurred then this may merit reporting.
But a simple wrong taxiway taken at night at what is a very dark and somewhat deceptive airport with little or no background lighting or difficult signage sounds petty.
If there were pavement cracking or a runway incursion occurred then this may merit reporting.
But a simple wrong taxiway taken at night at what is a very dark and somewhat deceptive airport with little or no background lighting or difficult signage sounds petty.
There are those "that have", and those that "will have".
Let's not forget that at this particular "International Gateway", there are no illuminated taxiway signs to help any of us blokes trying to find our way around in the dark.
Interesting that the original post occurred within minutes of the alleged incident.
Let's not forget that at this particular "International Gateway", there are no illuminated taxiway signs to help any of us blokes trying to find our way around in the dark.
Interesting that the original post occurred within minutes of the alleged incident.
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I have to disagree. This is a serious breach of aviation safety & CASA should be grounding them, pending a full enquiry. Perhaps a Royal Commission would get to the bottom of this.
In fact, we should shut QF down as well, for calling the integrity & respect of the common kangaroo into doubt. The Kangaroo, or Rat as it is now referred to, doesn't deserve this negative press. Ground them too I say!
Better yet, ground them all! God never intended man to fly in the first place, otherwise we'd have been born with FF points!!!
In fact, we should shut QF down as well, for calling the integrity & respect of the common kangaroo into doubt. The Kangaroo, or Rat as it is now referred to, doesn't deserve this negative press. Ground them too I say!
Better yet, ground them all! God never intended man to fly in the first place, otherwise we'd have been born with FF points!!!
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Not the first time...
Spose you've all heard the story of the American heavy captain flying into Frankfurt Main one busy weekend?
Stories goes that a busy and very angry German controller got upset when the crew of the said aircraft requested progressive taxi instructions. Controller then asked if he'd ever flown into a large airport in his life to which said captain replied 'I was here in the late 40's but we didn't stop!'
Strange to think that the same could have happened to Darwin had things not gone our way.
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Stories goes that a busy and very angry German controller got upset when the crew of the said aircraft requested progressive taxi instructions. Controller then asked if he'd ever flown into a large airport in his life to which said captain replied 'I was here in the late 40's but we didn't stop!'
Strange to think that the same could have happened to Darwin had things not gone our way.
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Hmm, i've held off, but i just cant help myself....
Yes amos2, its true. I saw the 'fun' as it took place -- was stepping off a Braz to see half the airport staff gazing back at the runway -- normally the Airnorth and QF traffic officers don't take much interest in affairs on the ramp once their plane has been pushed back and taxiis off -- someone elses problem now!
But whats this.....
A VB 737 stuck on Zulu, not just a little bit up, but ALL THE WAY UP
with a beautifully curved winglet threatening the nice new fire station! Classic!
Apparently had been cleared to backtrack RWY 11.
Now, it must surely be a comfort to those 2 VB tech crew that half of Pprune has leapt to their defence, and yes, I have pulled some clangers of my own, but...
It was a beautiful dry season evening....
a waning moon only a day or two since a full disc was providing its glow through a clear sky, visibility unlimited.......
light breeze......
only one or two other aircraft within 20 miles, one other taxiing....
You don't get any better conditions, and you could not get a less complicated taxi instruction...!!!
And yet, two "professional" aircrew drawing over $200k per annum between them, confuse a single row of green taxiway lights on an 8m width taxiway as being the 11,000 feet by 200 feet wide Cat 1 runway with HIRL and orange hold short lights under their noses only 10m ahead !!!
Lighten up you VB wannabe's, that was an absolute no brainer!!
Okay, maybe I am an @rsehole, but lads, I saw it, and this tired and cranky little black duck just laughed and laughed and laughed!
Yes amos2, its true. I saw the 'fun' as it took place -- was stepping off a Braz to see half the airport staff gazing back at the runway -- normally the Airnorth and QF traffic officers don't take much interest in affairs on the ramp once their plane has been pushed back and taxiis off -- someone elses problem now!
But whats this.....
A VB 737 stuck on Zulu, not just a little bit up, but ALL THE WAY UP
with a beautifully curved winglet threatening the nice new fire station! Classic! Apparently had been cleared to backtrack RWY 11.
Now, it must surely be a comfort to those 2 VB tech crew that half of Pprune has leapt to their defence, and yes, I have pulled some clangers of my own, but...
It was a beautiful dry season evening....
a waning moon only a day or two since a full disc was providing its glow through a clear sky, visibility unlimited.......
light breeze......
only one or two other aircraft within 20 miles, one other taxiing....
You don't get any better conditions, and you could not get a less complicated taxi instruction...!!!
And yet, two "professional" aircrew drawing over $200k per annum between them, confuse a single row of green taxiway lights on an 8m width taxiway as being the 11,000 feet by 200 feet wide Cat 1 runway with HIRL and orange hold short lights under their noses only 10m ahead !!!
Lighten up you VB wannabe's, that was an absolute no brainer!!
Okay, maybe I am an @rsehole, but lads, I saw it, and this tired and cranky little black duck just laughed and laughed and laughed!
Bottums Up
Whilst on the surface this may appear to be a no brainer we should all be cognisant of that old addage, "there but for the grace of the deity, go I"
And whilst we're slinging off at DJ for this cluster fkuc, lets not forget the QF 73, in '95 that landed and stopped short of the displaced threshold of RWY11, during WIP.
Maybe this was a cluster fcuk, but then again maybe there were some mittigating factors .......
Bonus Question
Name the airline that has not had a cluster fkuc.
And whilst we're slinging off at DJ for this cluster fkuc, lets not forget the QF 73, in '95 that landed and stopped short of the displaced threshold of RWY11, during WIP.
Maybe this was a cluster fcuk, but then again maybe there were some mittigating factors .......
Bonus Question
Name the airline that has not had a cluster fkuc.