Embraer 170 tours Australia
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Embraer 170 tours Australia
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No, my boss wouldn't let me (a bugsmashing mate of my from $%^work got a ride though!!). But I sat in it before it went: top machine! Seats bigger than QFs, great pitch, wider isle. The cockpit does not have one round-dial in it. Scary. Quite a few nifty TV-like screens to look at too. Look like they'ra big enough to put the paper on! All I'd need is an ADSL connection in the office so I can download The Australian to PDF format before I go out to the ship! Couldn't find the DVD loader though. Perhaps this was only a test-plane, and one with all the cockpit trimmings will come later. Oh, and good-looking Brazilian trolley dolly too!
No, my boss wouldn't let me (a bugsmashing mate of my from $%^work got a ride though!!). But I sat in it before it went: top machine! Seats bigger than QFs, great pitch, wider isle. The cockpit does not have one round-dial in it. Scary. Quite a few nifty TV-like screens to look at too. Look like they'ra big enough to put the paper on! All I'd need is an ADSL connection in the office so I can download The Australian to PDF format before I go out to the ship! Couldn't find the DVD loader though. Perhaps this was only a test-plane, and one with all the cockpit trimmings will come later. Oh, and good-looking Brazilian trolley dolly too!
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What a hot looking Plane!!
Where do I send my application?
Cheers, HH.
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Hugh jarse
I can see you in the front of one of them; I think you would make the aircraft look a bit better! Just have to convince the powers to be that you can do it just as cheap as NJS!
What would you prefer EMB 170 or DASH 8 400?
Maybe Qantas mainline might insist on operating any replacement for the BAE 146, so the cadets will have some thing to practice on prior to getting into a 747 400 or A 380
I can see you in the front of one of them; I think you would make the aircraft look a bit better! Just have to convince the powers to be that you can do it just as cheap as NJS!
What would you prefer EMB 170 or DASH 8 400?
Maybe Qantas mainline might insist on operating any replacement for the BAE 146, so the cadets will have some thing to practice on prior to getting into a 747 400 or A 380
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what are they going to call Eastern and Sunstate when the combine latter this year!
what are they going to call Eastern and Sunstate when the combine latter this year!
But I bet the fun police will end up calling it Qantaslink, no imagination.
Fun bit will be combining the seniority lists, especially if there is a sniff of jet slots to come. Handbags at 5 paces go!
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Whispers are suggesting the QLD family are looking very favourable. With major centres such as MKY, ROK not having overnights, strong push is for QF colours for business community of early morning services down south. Q300 just doesn't cut it. DJ are overnighting in ROK shortly.
Capacity in QLD is chockers. Don't be suprised if EAA/SSA don't merge to keep seperate AOC's and avoid bickering for management over career progression issues.
Capacity in QLD is chockers. Don't be suprised if EAA/SSA don't merge to keep seperate AOC's and avoid bickering for management over career progression issues.
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Heard similar things from within. SSA are VERY profitable with no competition, and require capacity. Word has it they are prepared to expand that part of the business group.
Management have 'noted' certain pilot groups to be slightly militant in the past. Apparently a big part of the equation.
Management have 'noted' certain pilot groups to be slightly militant in the past. Apparently a big part of the equation.
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A very sleek machine indeed. Saw it arrive in PH and taxi to NJS. Yummy!
Jarse, don't take this as a windup, but....
Why would QF repeat the pain and suffering of the Ansett/Kendell introduction of a medium jet into a turboprop operation? A very professional tprop operation, yes, but have a look at what would be needed...
... most importanlty from the point of view of a dash driver wanting to sit in an embraer, you would need to import at least ALL the check and trainers for the new type and put them over the top of your most senior dash captains. Probably advisable to also import enough experienced jet left-seaters for initial operations too.
Might sound sexy to lie back with eyes half closed and imagine the dash transforming itself into a sexy brasilian, but the reality might be no progression. You would be watching 'outsiders' fly your company's new toy.
Suspect that QF might shy away from the problems inherent in merging seniority lists, working out progression plans, etc.
I reckon that IF [if!!] the embraer is an option for QF, they will be most interested in the least fuss solution.
Best advice to a tprop driver that wants to get into jets [if that is your thing] -- don't base your plans on your company maybe upgrading to jets. Apply to a company that operates jets!
Repeat, just my 2c worth, not a shot at the very professional QLink dash crews.
Jarse, don't take this as a windup, but....
Why would QF repeat the pain and suffering of the Ansett/Kendell introduction of a medium jet into a turboprop operation? A very professional tprop operation, yes, but have a look at what would be needed...
... most importanlty from the point of view of a dash driver wanting to sit in an embraer, you would need to import at least ALL the check and trainers for the new type and put them over the top of your most senior dash captains. Probably advisable to also import enough experienced jet left-seaters for initial operations too.
Might sound sexy to lie back with eyes half closed and imagine the dash transforming itself into a sexy brasilian, but the reality might be no progression. You would be watching 'outsiders' fly your company's new toy.
Suspect that QF might shy away from the problems inherent in merging seniority lists, working out progression plans, etc.
I reckon that IF [if!!] the embraer is an option for QF, they will be most interested in the least fuss solution.
Best advice to a tprop driver that wants to get into jets [if that is your thing] -- don't base your plans on your company maybe upgrading to jets. Apply to a company that operates jets!
Repeat, just my 2c worth, not a shot at the very professional QLink dash crews.
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ITCZ - don't forget that there is a pilot group within the QF regionals that did use to operate jets.
Ideed there was a QF regional (besides Impulse) that operated jets as recently as 18 months ago.
The numbers are dwindling as we speak but they are still there, not sure how many checkies left, but there are a few.
Completely different story to the Kendall goat f*ck.
Ideed there was a QF regional (besides Impulse) that operated jets as recently as 18 months ago.
The numbers are dwindling as we speak but they are still there, not sure how many checkies left, but there are a few.
Completely different story to the Kendall goat f*ck.
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I can only agree with ITCZ, with all vested interests left aside.
Whilst I don't believe that the Southern/Eastern/Sunstate drivers are not equally as capable of operating the Embraer, as any other professional pilot body, I don't believe that Qantas management will take the route of upgrading at their cost.
The financial experiences of a jet type to Kendell and before them Southern will see Qantas avoid a repeat, if they can.
As ITCZ says, if you want a jet job, apply to a company that operates them. Qantas own the DH8 operating subsidiaries but they're separate companies and as we've seen progression from QF regionals to mainline is almost as scarse as rocking-horse sh!t.
Whilst I don't believe that the Southern/Eastern/Sunstate drivers are not equally as capable of operating the Embraer, as any other professional pilot body, I don't believe that Qantas management will take the route of upgrading at their cost.
The financial experiences of a jet type to Kendell and before them Southern will see Qantas avoid a repeat, if they can.
As ITCZ says, if you want a jet job, apply to a company that operates them. Qantas own the DH8 operating subsidiaries but they're separate companies and as we've seen progression from QF regionals to mainline is almost as scarse as rocking-horse sh!t.