Decorum please on the flight deck.
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Decorum please on the flight deck.
Talked to a new bright eyed and bushy tailed ex GA first officer who had just started on the 737 of a major Australian operator and who was startled at the continual stream of obscene language emanating from the check captain he was flying with.
Seems that the left seat occupant was unable to string a sentence together without copius use of F and C words.
Is bad language really necessary in the cockpit or is it just a lack of proper education? Or too much watching of The Sopranos, maybe?
And flying big jets used to be such a dignified profession...
Seems that the left seat occupant was unable to string a sentence together without copius use of F and C words.
Is bad language really necessary in the cockpit or is it just a lack of proper education? Or too much watching of The Sopranos, maybe?
And flying big jets used to be such a dignified profession...
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Could it be that said F/O was one of those precious rich boys put through the best schools by Daddy and Mummy and has never worked a day in the real world in his life. Probably had everything but a personal valet throughout his life.
Perhaps the checky has seen some real life. Unlike the nancy boy.
Perhaps?
Perhaps the checky has seen some real life. Unlike the nancy boy.
Perhaps?
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You have to admit that it does show a poor command of the Australian (English) language if you can't express your self without swearing.
No, I'm not a nancy boy nor do I come from a rich family... and yes I do use those words when appropriate.
No, I'm not a nancy boy nor do I come from a rich family... and yes I do use those words when appropriate.
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Of course, the real test is can you get the verb, the noun and the adjective of the word ck in the one sentence?
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From memory the Occa CRM training manual states that use of the F word is expected in Australian airline ops. I liked the paragraph that says, " the C word should not be used when flying with a female pilot, unless she uses it first ". June Dally watkins would be shocked!
Mennen, does your mate flog whatchtower mags on the weekends?
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Mennen, does your mate flog whatchtower mags on the weekends?
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Being Australians we are well know for our economising in the use of language.
ie: Barbie, Loo, Cuppa, Ta, to name a few.
As far as I am concerned, why waste a 6 or 7 letter word when a 4 letter one will do!
ie: Barbie, Loo, Cuppa, Ta, to name a few.
As far as I am concerned, why waste a 6 or 7 letter word when a 4 letter one will do!
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The definition...
Gotta love my Macqaurie Dictionary definition of f**ker:
f**ker, n. Colloq. -adj 1. one who f**ks; one much given to f**king. 2. a contemptible person or thing. 3. (not necessarily offensive) any person.
Any person? Gee, might be able to have that as my title - just like the local quack has Dr.
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J Soulsby. F**ker
f**ker, n. Colloq. -adj 1. one who f**ks; one much given to f**king. 2. a contemptible person or thing. 3. (not necessarily offensive) any person.
Any person? Gee, might be able to have that as my title - just like the local quack has Dr.
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Of course, the real test is can you get the verb, the noun and the adjective of the word ck in the one sentence?
Hear that all the time at work
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Not being a prude by any means,but I wonder if Mr
Checky had used such colourful language on his first check to line as a bright eyed,bushy tailed F/O ?.
If he did (and I bet he didn't),I wounder if he was chipped !!.
No check Captains that I have ever known has had loose language,but some line people do,perhaps that is one reason they're not checkies.
Menen,I agree...not a good message from a person of presumed authority,especially with someone impressionable.
Checky had used such colourful language on his first check to line as a bright eyed,bushy tailed F/O ?.
If he did (and I bet he didn't),I wounder if he was chipped !!.
No check Captains that I have ever known has had loose language,but some line people do,perhaps that is one reason they're not checkies.
Menen,I agree...not a good message from a person of presumed authority,especially with someone impressionable.
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
Holy F#*K that mother f#*king F#*ker (insert #1 here) f#*ked f#*king (insert #2 name here)'s f$*in girlfriend last week, and when f#*king (#2) f#*ing well finds out, he'll snot that f#*king c-word's f#*ing nose right through his F#*ing cerebellum!
But back to the guts of this subject.
Why should someone, whose parents have tried to provide the best education opportunities for their children,have sh!t put on them by some of the Oz yobs?
My old man was just your average bank Johnny, but he went without to provide what he considered was the best education for us kids.
I have done the same for mine - even to the extent that I was slowly going out the door backwards for a few years (by "charging it" on credit) to give my 2nd kid the same opportunities his brother had received.
And so f#*in' what if this F/O takes offence at "cuss" words - I, for one, know that I am guilty of occasionally unnecessarily incorporating one too many "f's" and "c's" into my vocab., and sometimes stop to think how much more respect I have for individuals who DON'T unnecessarily incorporate cuss words into their every conversation.
(Let's hope GoGirl isn't reading this - she might blow my cover!!)
But back to the guts of this subject.
Why should someone, whose parents have tried to provide the best education opportunities for their children,have sh!t put on them by some of the Oz yobs?
My old man was just your average bank Johnny, but he went without to provide what he considered was the best education for us kids.
I have done the same for mine - even to the extent that I was slowly going out the door backwards for a few years (by "charging it" on credit) to give my 2nd kid the same opportunities his brother had received.
And so f#*in' what if this F/O takes offence at "cuss" words - I, for one, know that I am guilty of occasionally unnecessarily incorporating one too many "f's" and "c's" into my vocab., and sometimes stop to think how much more respect I have for individuals who DON'T unnecessarily incorporate cuss words into their every conversation.
(Let's hope GoGirl isn't reading this - she might blow my cover!!)
Kaptin M,
With all due respect, I don't think by being provided with the "best education opportunities" someone is precluded from swearing! In fact I think it has a detrimental effect on their use of the more "acceptable" words in the English language.
I come to this conclusion from my observations over a number of years whilst sharing train carriages with said boys - I was enroute to a Government High School and they were going to some of the best schools in Sydney!
Anyone who thinks that private school boys don't swear is f*cking kidding themselves!
TL
P.S. I'm surprised no-one has brought out the old line about pilots talking about flying whilst f*cking, and talking about f*cking whilst flying!
With all due respect, I don't think by being provided with the "best education opportunities" someone is precluded from swearing! In fact I think it has a detrimental effect on their use of the more "acceptable" words in the English language.
I come to this conclusion from my observations over a number of years whilst sharing train carriages with said boys - I was enroute to a Government High School and they were going to some of the best schools in Sydney!
Anyone who thinks that private school boys don't swear is f*cking kidding themselves!
TL
P.S. I'm surprised no-one has brought out the old line about pilots talking about flying whilst f*cking, and talking about f*cking whilst flying!