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Old 30th Oct 2003, 16:56
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Funny that. I've spoken to few people around and no one seems to know what the conditions are. Only rumours!

I was under the impression they were inundated with applications!?

There will probably be a long line of potential F/Os willing to pay for type ratings. The problem will be getting experienced Captains.

Guess It'll be even harder now that Qantas LCC might be hiring external.
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Old 30th Oct 2003, 17:55
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Not to mention Cathay, DragonAir CAL etc. recruiting...
 
Old 1st Nov 2003, 10:53
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Can anyone confirm that Brian McCarthy is the chief pilot of PB?
Heard it this morning from what I thought was a good source.
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Old 1st Nov 2003, 14:59
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Flight Intl Mag this week had a large advert for Pac Blue Pilot's.
Requirements NZ/Aus passports or residency in NZ. Okay thats fair enough........NZ/Aus ATPL and NG rating fair enough .....
Anyone applying whose NZ/Aus ATPL has been obtained by conversion from a foreign licence will have to do all ATPL theory subjects.....I am in the process of converting a UK ATPL to the NZ ATPL and all that's required is ATPL air law and a flight test.
Whoever wrote the advert probably Rishworth have either got their facts wrong or are simply trying to stop foreign pilot's applying...
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Old 1st Nov 2003, 16:41
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Propaganda said...

"Whoever wrote the advert probably Rishworth have either got their facts wrong or are simply trying to stop foreign pilot's applying"

And I say...

"When you consider there are many pilots in this part of the world looking for flying positions,what's wrong with that?"
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Old 1st Nov 2003, 20:33
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As long as pilots have sufficient credit available or are happy to part with hard earned cash,there will never be a shortage of pilots in companies like VB or PB.
The majority are quite willing to accept low salaries to get the glorious jet job, as they believe it will be only a temporary position,later leading to a better paid job elsewhere(but where?).
I would hazard to guess that VB could advertise F/O posistions for 25k per annum with medium hour requirements and still be flooded with CVs.
And why would'nt a lot of GA guys jump at it as that would not be a big pay drop for a many of them!
bottom line-There is no shortage of pilots,never has been, never will be.
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Old 1st Nov 2003, 20:51
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So Brian McArthy is leading the charge to undercut Virgin Blue pay and conditions...

Talk about interesting times!!
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Old 1st Nov 2003, 21:20
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Cool Read the Advert!

propaganda, read the advert again... it says further down the page that they may require those who have converted ATPL's to sit all the NZ/Aus theory subjects. To me this is so they can discount those who convert from FAA as lets face it, UK/JAA ATPL subects are much the same as NZ/Aus.

Just my take on it, but it does make sense.
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Old 4th Nov 2003, 03:53
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Anyone applying whose NZ/Aus ATPL has been obtained by conversion from a foreign licence will have to do all ATPL theory subjects
I know the add says different....

I have no problems with this!
Sorry guys. But it is far harder to convert a NZ ATPL to a UK one.
If it was a fair swap or similar (like a law exam etc.), sure.
So no support there. But I know how you feel.
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Old 4th Nov 2003, 04:31
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Nice rumour re. Brian Mc, but wrong! He's taken a part-time, non-flying simulator position with DJ, that's all. Sorry to take the gloss off a great rumour though.
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Old 4th Nov 2003, 09:04
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Lightbulb Interviews anyone?

Has anyone had an invite to an interview yet?
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Old 4th Nov 2003, 15:01
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The aircraft for Pacific Blue are brand new from the factory and one would assume that some amount of pilot training is included with the deal. It will be interesting to see if people will be allowed to do ratings at facilities other than Boeing.

I imagine that the deal will be to go to Boeing but to make the cheque out to Pacific Blue. Nice way to make some money to pay for the first series of flights with the promotional airfares.
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Old 4th Nov 2003, 17:43
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Iso, as of today they have recieved about 700 applications, so I imagine it will take them some time.

Tape it shut, I think being a LCC they would try to get costs down as much as possible. Training if supplied would be factored into the price I'm sure. But indeed if PB was to nominate a select few to do the Boeing training, and have those select few pay PB, it could help in reducing costs. I don't know how many training slots per aircraft we'd be talking about, but say $30K? for a(n) NG rating, there would want to be a significant number of slots sold to bring down the price of a new NG significantly. Just my 2c
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Old 5th Nov 2003, 14:26
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Heard today.

Captain Salary $115,000
F/O Salary $69,000 (60%)

$3.20 per duty hour
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Old 5th Nov 2003, 14:47
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Mmmmm, more like... F/O... $69,000. Divide that by 52 weeks per year, and then by 45 hours per week (thinking max duty would be around the 90 hour mark for a two week period), and the total is more like around $29.49 per duty hour.

Captain is more like $49.15 per duty hour.

Much better money than hanging off a shovel or the handle of a hot saucepan wouldn't you say?
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Old 5th Nov 2003, 15:24
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I think Jet Man may have been referring to DTA.
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Old 5th Nov 2003, 15:53
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The guy on the shovel didn't have to buy his job with a 25K endorsement.

Conditions for 737 drivers have halved in Australia/NZ. How much further down would you be willing to take them?
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Old 5th Nov 2003, 16:06
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Cheers bb, I'm not yet aquainted with anything like that in anything I take home... as yet. My mistake, sorry JetM.

Gnads, true. I see your point.

Have a nice day.
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Old 6th Nov 2003, 00:02
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Jet Man,

A serious question - is that AU$ or NZ$ ..?
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Old 6th Nov 2003, 04:15
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Based CHC, NZ so NZ$
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