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eyesickle1 5th September 2014 09:37

Hey there,

I was thinking of applying but I'm rather poor and was wondering if it is true that you are reimbursed for travel expenses and even hotel expenses if you take the feast test in maastricht?

Do you get reimbursed for all the times you have to travel to maastricht? I really want to apply as I'm currently waiting (probably forever) on a stage 3 interview at NATS and figure I can have a good go at this application... just money is a problem if I have to pay for 2 or 3 visits to maastricht and don't get any back!

Thanks for any help :)

eyesickle1 5th September 2014 09:56

Also, has anyone had to send any certificates proving grades in education with their initial application form or do they request them later on?

GlobalJourney 5th September 2014 15:20

Hi eyesickle1,

If you are age 31, as your pprune profile says, then unfortunately you cannot apply due to being over the age of 25.

If not, or for anyone else wondering the same, then yes Eurocontrol will reimburse your travel expenses for each visit. They will provide the hotel accomodation, but you have to book and pay for your own travel, then submit copies of the tickets etc when you attend, and it will be paid into your bank account after each visit. So although you don't end up out of pocket for travel in the end, you do have to pay to begin with.

Timpsi 5th September 2014 17:56

I've been invited for Phase 1 by Eurocontrol.

I have been reading some on Wikipedia about the FEAST test but could someone please explain the famous "cube test". I always read that this test is the hardest. What's it all about? :)

Essoxs 7th September 2014 12:59

I got my invitation for Phase 2 on 25th of July, and BAQ just this Thursday.

Phase 2 starts on 15th September for me, with interview on 17th-19th.
(They probably want to get at least two rounds of Phase 2 testing through, so they can have a full day of interviews, instead of just 2-3.)

Richard H 8th September 2014 18:04

I was wondering, what are the group sizes for Phase 2?
Also, someone said much earlier in this thread that you need to know how to create a flight plan before you do phase 2. Is that correct?

Only a week to go now!

Essoxs 9th September 2014 00:22

No, you don't need to know really anything for phase 2. It is just, that YOU create a flight plan, before you have to go through a test, where you have to discuss it with a partner and such stuff. So having at least seen a flight strip and knowing roughly what information it contains/should contain is somewhat helpfull (at least as far as my experience with the German ATC (DFS) Tests is concerned).

Phase 2 consists of 3 groups of 6 people being testet on 3 days.
So 15./16. and 17. have all the same tests, with just 3 groups of 6 doing the tests.

At least EC states, that Phase 2 consists of 6 person group tesing.. And Imke said as much as that they draft 18 people for their first block of Phase 2 in September.

Richard H 9th September 2014 09:50

Thank you Essoxs. That was exactly the information I wanted to know.

EDIT: Can someone please tell me the separation requirements at MUAC? I think it's 5nm horizontally and 1000 feet vertically?

Stelar 9th September 2014 15:05

most of the times yes, 5nm or 1000feet.

regarding creating a flight plan: it's not a real flight plan, dont brown your pants. it's about using common sense and standing by for decisions you've made without being an arrogant jerk.

Richard H 9th September 2014 16:51

Thank you! It's not so much the phase 2 that I'm worried about as I've done a few of those before and have succeeded. It's the interview part, specifically the technical problems at the end that are asked, that is more of a concern!
Still, better to fail here than part way through training!

Stelar 10th September 2014 16:18

dont worry about technical stuff. it's not like you have to invent black light or solve the problem of the starving children in africa with some gadget. as i wrote before it's about quick thinking, problem solving. if you get stuck you will receive hints from the interview boards (assuming you're not considered an ahole till then).

so dress properly, listen, answer for the questions and you should be fine. however if i were you i wouldnt focus too much on the interview part.. that's stage3 and you're still before stage2.

Marc E 14th September 2014 11:21

It is only 3 more days until Phase 2. However I have not yet received any confirmation for the hotel booking from Imke. Did anyone of you receive some kind of confirmation?

Essoxs 14th September 2014 14:34

Don't worry, no confirmation of reservation will be send. Just check in at the main desk of Hotel Beaumont on your booked day of arrival and they will surely have everything ready.

[Just checked in 20 minutes ago, to start my tests tomorrow! :) ]

Marc E 15th September 2014 14:08

Thanks Essoxs, best of luck with the test. Let us know how it went.

Timpsi 22nd September 2014 10:34

Has anyone got their results for the Phase 2 testing yet?

I will be traveling down to Maastricht on 30th of September for the Phase 1 testing.

maumau92 23rd September 2014 11:31

@Timpsi you'll get the Phase 2 results usually the same day, as you'll then need to go back for the interview usually the day after. I got the feedback from the interview rather quick as well, so just a few days later.

Timpsi 26th September 2014 08:07

@maumau92

I haven't done the Phase 1 yet, I'm doing it on Tuesday. I was just wondering about the ones who went for the Phase 2 recently!

PPG 9th October 2014 06:36

Phase 3
 
Anyone familiar with FEAST MULTIPASS test?

eyesickle1 9th October 2014 23:22

I sent off my application, received a certificate of visual performance, filled that in and sent it off and just received an e-mail stating that they had got my full application and would correspond with me in due course about stage 1 assessments. The email had an attachment on it, but on outlook it won't let me see the attachment at all, which means it's probably of a format outlook doesn't like.

Just wondering if anyone knows what this attachment is and if it's important? I'm assuming it's not as I have to wait for another email to see if I have a phase 1 interview or not, but just double checking.

Thanks for any info.

billups 17th October 2014 10:10

multi pass
 
I`m new to the forum,but i`m about to take the multi pass next week and i don`t have a clue what to expect,if anyone could say something about it i would be very grathefull.

PPG 17th October 2014 14:06

Multi Pass
 
I think nobody know what is that test. New test from Eurocontrol ;)

AleksandarSale 20th October 2014 11:03

Multipass
 
Hi,

Can someone tell me something about feast multipass test and FPQ? (I think that is for Feast Personality Questionaire)


Thank you

PPG 21st October 2014 13:41

FPQ stands for Feast Personality Questions.
You can find example here:

ATC Personality Test

blazzzoubek 21st October 2014 20:24

Hi, i'm new to this forum and i jut completed second phase of FEAST tests (DART) and i have a few questions regarding them.

There was 1300 aplicants for the job at phase one, 200 of us were accepted in phase two and i'm wondering how many usualy procceed to phase three?

I finnished ex. 4 with no errors and with no corrections of headings, ex. 5 was quite hectic and i had about five conflicts and one near miss :ugh: in ex.6 i had no conflicts but i entered a few SUMs incorrectly and made a loop with one of my planes. Those, who finnished and proccedeed to phase 3 what do you thing my chances are? Probably very little chance but still, did anyone proceed with so many critical situations?

PPG 22nd October 2014 09:08

Nobody can tell you how many will stay for second part of phase 2.
It depends how well people done it. It can be 80% or 30% but you will see for yourself.

I think you done DART ok and you should pass if everything you wrote is correct.

Do you have Multi Pass test after this?

Timpsi 22nd October 2014 10:25

@PPG
 
Is the Multi Pass test aka Phase 2 the same as the "group assignment"? Or is this something else?

Phase 3 would be the interviews. I passed Phase 1 and waiting for dates for Phase 2 at the moment. Anyone else?

PPG 22nd October 2014 11:53

Phase 3 is FPQ. Phase 4 is interview.
Multi Pass is also done on computer, it's not group assignment.

Timpsi 22nd October 2014 14:27

Okay! At EC they told me that Phase 2 would consist of a "group assignment" the first day and if you passed this there would be an interview on the next day, Phase 3. Thats what they told us anyway. Maybe they cound the FPQ and Multi Pass as Phase 2?

PPG 22nd October 2014 14:37

Maybe it's different I don't know.
If they told you that, then it should be that way. Follow the instructions :)

blazzzoubek 23rd October 2014 11:46

PPG
 
Hello,

yes i really hope it was enough. For first phase there is probably a minimum score required to proceed to phase two, what about phase two?
Does the best few % of applicants proceed or is there also a minimum score required and everyone above that proceed?
I've never heard of Multi Pass test. As far as i know after DART testing we have FPQ and then the interview.
I'm currently not so stressed from what awaits us in the next round i'm just anxiously waiting for the invitation (:

eyesickle1 23rd October 2014 12:50

Just got my invite to Phase 1 testing. Was wondering if anyone has travelled from anywhere in the North of England and has any advice on the best way to get to Maastricht? I thought flying would be good but the only places seem to be from Glasgow or London and I'm near Manchester. Would trains be better?

PPG 24th October 2014 05:13

@ blazzzoubek

Hi.
We didn't get any results from the test. We just receive email if we pass or didn't, so I can't tell you is there any % you need to achive. I pass DART test and I did almost the same as you described :)

I understand you perfectly for waiting for results..that is the worst - waiting period :sad:

MickMannock 27th October 2014 10:43

Hi guys! I am the new one here.:)

Has anybody passed till the second stage of ATCOs selection in Maastricht this year?
They invited me for the second stage. So does anybody has any information or an idea about what will be there? And also if anybody is coming to Maastricht for the second stage from anywhere, let's co-operate!)
Right now I am in Brussels and will stay here till 29th of November.

cemah 29th October 2014 06:45

skytest
 
can anyone please borrow me the skytest atco program? I will return the money but right now I'm so broke and testing is coming up in 1 week!


for god's sake, i've searched this whole Internet and found nothing available for download. it's incredible how people don't care about air traffic control!
:))

PPG 29th October 2014 07:06

@cemah - you will need a activation from skytest support that's why there isn't any available download.

Timpsi 29th October 2014 07:45

@MickMannock
 
Hey! I have also been informed that I passed Phase 1 and will be invited for Phase 2 in "the near future". No invitation yet though, so I'm just waiting impatiently :)

For what date did you receive your invitation?

MickMannock 29th October 2014 08:08

Morning, man.

Look, actually I have also been only informed about that I have passed. And they have said only that this 2nd stage will be somewhere between 22nd-29th of November. I was wondering, if anybody else has got this "invitation" and so has known what will be there. :rolleyes:

So I am also waiting.

But it's good to know that I am not the only one.
Anyway for better co-operation we can exchange with our facebook, if you want.))

KristianControl 29th October 2014 13:57

DART
 
Hi,

I received invitation for part II of FEAST - DART - 4 days (weekend included) after completing first part. I'd done DART 21st of this month and I still didn't receive any information at all. Is this normal? I applied at national ATC provider.


How long you usually wait for the information?

MickMannock 30th October 2014 07:37

@KristianControl
 
Hi!

Just for example: in my country they informed us in 15 minutes after the test if we have passed. So I think it's a better idea to call them and to discover if you have passed.

Good luck!:ok:

Timpsi 30th October 2014 13:30

@MickMannock
 
@MickMannock Check your inbox mate! :)



@KristianControl, did you do the test with Eurocontrol or are you talking about ATC in your country?


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