The IAA does not pay health insurance. You're correct that its not cheap, but it is almost a necessity, as the public health service is a disaster.
The IAA will not normally offer you employment elsewhere, if you fail exams. If you are coming as an ATCO then that's what you'll be. If you dont make the grade - as happened recently with our Belarusian friend, you will be let go

Anyway, those who don't risk, don't drink champaign ;) I wouldn't apply if I knew that I can't go back to my previous employer:cool:

@expatATCO,
having no idea to say YES/NO to your decesion but it seems(upon my research) that IAA offer is not anything special.
Do not expect that you will save more than 1000 Eur/per month,after all payments(tax,health insurance,appartment,utility,food...).
I don't know where you come from but as lowest paid rdr ATCO in Europe after all those expenses(mentioned above) 600/700EUr remains.
So I think that IAA offer is not :
I don't know what exactly they offered to you,but I do not believe that full salary will be paid before rating/endorsment for particular sector(s) .

Some other solutions seem to be better,and as shortage of ATCOs (so I have been told:E) exist expect even more better offers in near future.
If you have strong wish to leave your employer:ok:,or you are looking for change and challenge:ok: in your life than wait for a little.
With 27 years,all ratings and ability to move you are in better position than many ANSPs around World. They need you.
Anyhow,
best wishes in any directions you decide,

Any tower jobs on offer!!!

Net pays.
 

G'day All.

I've just read this entire thread and I have a few questions.
I have received an offer of a permanent position with 5 yrs radar experience. On my calculations and they could be wrong, 75K EU including shift penalites + subscription to the Overtime scheme taking gross pay to around 84K + public holidays works out to around 88k. After checking tax rates, I worked this out to a net pay after contributions (roughly 6%) of 4362 EU per month.

My guess at monthly expenses are:

Rent 800
Phone 60
Food 400 (couple)
Internet 50
Other Utils 400
Car 500


I guess that health insurance needs paying aswell. Anyone know what that is worth for a married couple?

From Australia, what I know is that at least 2 people have offers for starting in October and they are from the brisbane centre.

Are there any costs that I appear to have missed?

I hope it works out and I get to work with y'all.

G'day Allrounder,

I assume that you are going to Shannon as the rent in Dublin is generally higher than 800 per month.

I am currently in Melbourne Centre and have been offered a job in Dublin starting in October.

Have a look at this site for health insurance, we found it fairly useful.

Health Care Ireland. Health Insurance Ireland. Vhi Ireland

For used cars this is a handy site.

Car Buyers Guide - Buy & Sell, New & Used Cars in Ireland with CBG

It looks like used cars are pretty cheap in Ireland but you have to be careful with the taxes. I have been told that it is better to go with a Diesel car as the taxes work out cheaper.

Cheers,

West ATC

Morning fellas.

Properties to let

Dublin rents will be around the €1300 mark, though depending on location and type of property there could be significant variation.

Car tax for cars registered after July 08 is based on CO2 emissions, pre-July the old system of engine size still applies. See here.

For health insurance, look at the alternatives to VHI:

Hibernian Health

Quinn Healthcare

Bear in mind, the payment for this scheme involves a lump sum payment of €4k on signing up, then double time for hours worked [rostered for 1 day a month, requirement to attend for 8 of the 12 days] In Dublin there's a pretty good chance you'll get to work all 8 days in the year, and more if you want (subject to a max of 3 days per month, and 24 days per annum)

Thanks guys for that info.

Yes it is shannon that I am off to. I've been looking around ennis for a place to rent and have seen suitable places for the 7-800 mark/month.

Would it cost around 200 Euros a month in heating, assuming its on 24/7!!

I got that email too, no job for me.
Process took an excessively long time, with no tranparancy on the recruitment process at all. Would have been nice to get an offer, and have something to consider. It's not so much the lack of an offer that pisses me off, it's more the whole recruitment process and the way we've been left in the dark. Would I really want to work for this organisation? :ugh:

I got the job in october 08.
can anybody tell me what will be the take home pay per fortnight after all the deductions. Pay fixed at Euro 62000 + shift pay + OT
Like tax, standard deductions from pay.
What are the other costs like health insurance, car loan payments, child education, heating costs, corporation tax etc.( have I missed anything?)

ATCO94 et al
There is a wealth of info within this thread about all you need to know
Ballpark figures!
Net income is about 70% of gross income. The OT scheme only guarantees 4K per annum.If you are called its double time for the hours worked. There are 12 Bank Holidays in Ireland. On average you hit 8 of them @ 3x pay or 2x pay + day in lieu - your choice. the ones you miss are extra days pay or day off in lieu.

Health Insurance nuclear family is 2k
Phone/2Mb Internet €720
Electricity €1500
Rent - regional differences - see above threads
Schools - Free - books uniforms etc = 1 x arm + 1 x leg
VAT (sales tax) is 21% - a real bastard!
Interest rates - as per ECB 4.5%
Average Industrial wage €35-40K

Pint of Beer €5
20 Cigarettes €8
Big Mac meal €8
3 Course meal for 2 + wine €100
10Km cab ride €10-15
Petrol €1.25 ish Diesel €1.35 ish

What else do ya need?

Electricity €1500, Phone/2Mb Internet €720:eek: Is it per year or per month or per what?

Per Year. Its expensive here, but not that expensive!

thank you beamwidth
how much is heating costs( or is it included in the electricity )

What are the working hours in dublin & shannon. Also the rest/relief in day & night duties. Any career development/diversification opportunities given by IAA.:confused:

@ ATCO94

If you got the job read carefully your letter of appointment;)

expatco If you donot undertand the question will clarify.
That letter only tells about no of working hours in week. My question was what is the shift pattern like. What is the rest-relief cycle. Do you count the relief time in the total working hours in the week.
Tell me are these given in your appointment letter ?
can you mail me copy of your appointment letter?

Read page 4 of this thread for shift details.

career progression
 

i believe that the standard IAA rules pertain .....
5 years before you're entitled to apply for a promotion.
Other opertunities arise with less experience - e.g. OJTI, UCE, Instructor etc. These normally have a 2 year experience requirement.

On the matterr of heating bills, in the main, about the same as electricity ( most heating systems are oil or gas based ) subject to change

Thank you all . hope to see you soon.:ok:

ATCO94 then you should read all thread properly before writing queries here:cool: