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mogul01 14th January 2025 10:40

I am not to sure about others, I would have thought I was in the 'others' catagory :), I received an email on the 6th jan to accept stage 1 testing, which for me will be 20th of Jan, I assumed this was for everyone but maybe not? The first email I received mentioned the following stages of testing
  • ATC Skills Simulation (90 minutes)
  • ATC Cognitive Suite (40 minutes)
  • Behavioural Traits Questionnaire (20 minutes)
Is this the same info you received and were just a week ahead of me?

zyzy 14th January 2025 21:42

Practice for the stage 1 tests
 
Hey do you have any idea on how to prepare for the stage 1 tests? I'am a bit lost they say look at the SHL website but there so many tests and I don't know if they are similar to the actual tests

zyzy 14th January 2025 21:48

Mine is on the same day how do you prepare for this tho?

DKD 15th January 2025 01:43


Originally Posted by mogul01 (Post 11807056)
I am not to sure about others, I would have thought I was in the 'others' catagory :), I received an email on the 6th jan to accept stage 1 testing, which for me will be 20th of Jan, I assumed this was for everyone but maybe not? The first email I received mentioned the following stages of testing
  • ATC Skills Simulation (90 minutes)
  • ATC Cognitive Suite (40 minutes)
  • Behavioural Traits Questionnaire (20 minutes)
Is this the same info you received and were just a week ahead of me?

I would say he’s in the same intake as us (I also got the invitation on the 6th). On the 13th I received my links to the tests in 3 different emails, having until the 20th to complete them. I just sat down and finished them all now, took me roughly 2 hours to complete everything. Pretty confident I did my best - it’s all on them now! The second part of the radar simulation was not very fun for me personally haha

DKD 15th January 2025 01:49


Originally Posted by livinthedreamatc (Post 11806935)
Hi All,

Just kicked of the stage 1 test with detail accuracy and coded reasoning.. not sure how to feel. Didn't get through all the questions in either - I'm hoping this is normal otherwise I'm a fair way off the mark? :ugh:

Was prioritising accuracy, however was obviously trying to work as quick as possible - do others just try and rip through the questions?

So I read this a day before my tests and can confirm now that I didn’t either. I did quite well in both areas as I did also focus primarily on accuracy, not sure how much I missed out on the detail accuracy but for coded reasoning I got 40/50 completed with pretty high confidence in all my answers. Definitely could’ve squeezed out a few more but it is what it is I thought I was doing well for time during the test.
All the best! Goodluck with the rest

Thatsrightbru 22nd January 2025 11:06

Hey boss I also just completed the tests on the 20th and had a pretty similar experience especially the coded reasoning (also got to 40/50) and pt2 of the radar test. absolute best of luck though!!! I guess we all let each other know when we hear back?

DKD 23rd January 2025 04:51


Originally Posted by Thatsrightbru (Post 11812068)
Hey boss I also just completed the tests on the 20th and had a pretty similar experience especially the coded reasoning (also got to 40/50) and pt2 of the radar test. absolute best of luck though!!! I guess we all let each other know when we hear back?

Best of luck to you my man. I've never been so nervous to hear back form a job, I want this bad haha. Could be another week I'm thinking, as they'd have to go through everyone's results. Let's hope for the best! I'll keep you posted.

Thatsrightbru 24th January 2025 15:37

DKD Absolutely boss I feel the same way. if we both get through to the next stage we can put our heads together and figure out how to do our best! and hopefully I will see you there!

livinthedreamatc 30th January 2025 21:34

Dissappointedly didn't make it. But makes me want it more. Hoping the rest of you had better luck!

Just wondering if anyone knows if they ever give exceptions to the 12month re-apply period?

Also would anyone who made it through, have any tips (via dm).. I think radar was toughest for me, with the remebering relationships part where you had to remember 2 equations. Also interested in the type of answers that others provide in behavioural testing, which inhindsight I could've answered in a manner more tailored towards ATC attitude.

Structatc 31st January 2025 07:40

Pyschometric stage one testing
 
Hi all - sorry new to the forum and the atc application - so niy too sure if i can ask this - but is there any guidance on how to prepare for the new domain testing? Is there anything online that is similar (like coded reasoning, spatial openong/closing shapes, whats next in thr pattetn type questions)?

How similar are the practice tests ASA give you in diffculty anf type of questions?

kevinstopbeingakunt 31st January 2025 22:45

Hey all!
I am starting my ATC journey. Through first round and have booked an Interrupt test for next week. Quite nervous/excited. 2% is a lot less than I was expecting!

Structatc 1st February 2025 22:58


Originally Posted by kevinstopbeingakunt (Post 11818627)
Hey all!
I am starting my ATC journey. Through first round and have booked an Interrupt test for next week. Quite nervous/excited. 2% is a lot less than I was expecting!

Hey! Would love to know the type of questions you got in the first round and if there is any way to prepare for it?

kevinstopbeingakunt 5th February 2025 21:42


Originally Posted by Structatc (Post 11819392)
Hey! Would love to know the type of questions you got in the first round and if there is any way to prepare for it?

hard to describe, each test has a practice test that you can do over and over which I recommend.
also, kind of a no-brainer but -
READ ALL THE INSTRUCTIONS!

The radar was the worst. You have to flag moving dots while answering math problems that disappear.

ceruleanskies 6th February 2025 02:00

Brisbane AC
 
Got an email today to book in for an Assessment Centre for mid March in Brisbane. Looking forward to it but wish it was sooner, it's going to be an excited but anxious wait for it! The assessment centre is a half day (~4 hrs), and I had the choice of three time slots. Anyone else on here who will be attending this round?

departuresgday 6th February 2025 20:59

Congrats to those who made it into the Assessment Centre. I completed the interrupt test this week and didn't make the cut. If you zoom out far enough, you could see your score. I got close to 90% on one of the components, but only scored around 70% on the other components.
Bit of a bummer, but they did say that they expect a good score in all components. I guess the 70% score wasn't quite good enough. I'll try again in 12 months.
Best of luck to everyone else!

Showa Cho 6th February 2025 21:39


Originally Posted by livinthedreamatc (Post 11817715)
Dissappointedly didn't make it. But makes me want it more. Hoping the rest of you had better luck!

Just wondering if anyone knows if they ever give exceptions to the 12month re-apply period?

Also would anyone who made it through, have any tips (via dm).. I think radar was toughest for me, with the remebering relationships part where you had to remember 2 equations. Also interested in the type of answers that others provide in behavioural testing, which inhindsight I could've answered in a manner more tailored towards ATC attitude.

The whole point of the behavioral testing is to see if you're a good fit for the job. If you adjust your answers to what you think they are looking for, and therefore not what you are actually like as a person, then all you're doing is setting yourself up. Sure, be smart about the answers you give, but be honest with yourself and the panel.

SC

departuresgday 6th February 2025 21:47

Congrats to those who made it to the assessment centre! I completed the interrupt test this week but was unsuccessful. I saw that one of my scores was close to 90%, but the other ones were closer to 75%. They said you need a good score in all components to pass, so I guess I just missed the mark in one of the components.
They wouldn't provide any feedback, and asked me to wait another 12 months before reapplying.

kevinstopbeingakunt 6th February 2025 22:02

I found the interrupt test easier than the radar test of round 1. It was still tricky splitting your brain to see, hear, comprehend and compute at the same time, but the math questions were MUCH simpler (some T/F in there too, instead of "What is 387 x 12" wtf how do I do that in 3 seconds in my head?). There were a few others in the zoom with me, and we were all talked through the test. Very simple, 7 minute tutorial and 15 minute test.

departuresgday 6th February 2025 22:33


Originally Posted by kevinstopbeingakunt (Post 11823285)
I found the interrupt test easier than the radar test of round 1. It was still tricky splitting your brain to see, hear, comprehend and compute at the same time, but the math questions were MUCH simpler (some T/F in there too, instead of "What is 387 x 12" wtf how do I do that in 3 seconds in my head?). There were a few others in the zoom with me, and we were all talked through the test. Very simple, 7 minute tutorial and 15 minute test.

I also thought it was easier, definitely less hectic as others have said. I'm disappointed I didn't pass it considering my score.

ceruleanskies 6th February 2025 22:38


Originally Posted by kevinstopbeingakunt (Post 11823285)
some T/F in there too, instead of "What is 387 x 12" wtf how do I do that in 3 seconds in my head

One trick you can use with multiple choice maths questions is to just look at the last digits. 7x2 is 14, so the answer must end in 4. Often there is only one response where that is the case!

kevinstopbeingakunt 7th February 2025 00:10

oooh, good tip, unfortunately neither was multiple choice you had to type in the answer.

Moose98 7th February 2025 02:51


Originally Posted by ceruleanskies (Post 11822703)
Got an email today to book in for an Assessment Centre for mid March in Brisbane. Looking forward to it but wish it was sooner, it's going to be an excited but anxious wait for it! The assessment centre is a half day (~4 hrs), and I had the choice of three time slots. Anyone else on here who will be attending this round?

Just got the invitation yesterday after a 2 month wait, good luck to all attending!

dunbird 7th February 2025 08:15

Hi, can anyone give some tips and tricks for the assessment centre, not quite sure what the group tasks are or even the individual ones? Makes me really confused and don't know what to expect.. (dm me if you want) thanks!

ceruleanskies 7th February 2025 20:39


Originally Posted by Moose98 (Post 11823375)
Just got the invitation yesterday after a 2 month wait, good luck to all attending!

Yeah my wait was that long too. Guessing you did the interrupt test before Christmas also? And are you attending Brisbane AC or have they done invitation for other locations also.

ceruleanskies 7th February 2025 20:42


Originally Posted by kevinstopbeingakunt (Post 11823344)
oooh, good tip, unfortunately neither was multiple choice you had to type in the answer.

Second part of the radar test was multiple choice though. Number pad keys were to remove aircraft and the letter keys were selecting multiple choice answers to the maths questions

kevinstopbeingakunt 7th February 2025 20:57


Originally Posted by ceruleanskies (Post 11823949)
Second part of the radar test was multiple choice though. Number pad keys were to remove aircraft and the letter keys were selecting multiple choice answers to the maths questions

was it? my mistake.
Has anyone been through A/C in Melbourne?

Structatc 24th February 2025 04:23

Just applied last night, and got the link to the practice tests - it directs me to the SHL website - are they still doing SHL testing?

HighFlyer1025 4th March 2025 00:40

Assessment Centre
 
Hi,

Has anyone who recently been to the assessment centre have any tips on what to expect? I hear there is a group assessment and then an interview? Is this similar to your experience? I also was asked to obtain a medical before my assessment centre day, anyone else had this? Feeling extra nervous now im towards the last steps of getting in!

HighFlyer1025 4th March 2025 00:44

The SHL testings are just practice, there is no offical SHL test :)

If they check your resume and want to give you a shot, you will receive an email of some online tests. These are challenging, but for good reason.

Then, if lucky, you will do an interrupt test over zoom - nice and fun but testing how well you can do two things at once.

Then I am in uncharted territory! you have a date to select an assessment centre and go from there! Good luck with your application!

ceruleanskies 5th March 2025 09:04


Originally Posted by HighFlyer1025 (Post 11840291)
Hi,

Has anyone who recently been to the assessment centre have any tips on what to expect? I hear there is a group assessment and then an interview? Is this similar to your experience? I also was asked to obtain a medical before my assessment centre day, anyone else had this? Feeling extra nervous now im towards the last steps of getting in!

That is interesting they asked you to do a medical beforehand. Did you get a call form Holly and express interest in the New Zealand tower course? Perhaps they want people considering that one to be ready to go, as it starts in May. If not than that seems odd to do the medical now.

Structatc 5th March 2025 18:16


Originally Posted by HighFlyer1025 (Post 11840296)
The SHL testings are just practice, there is no offical SHL test :)

If they check your resume and want to give you a shot, you will receive an email of some online tests. These are challenging, but for good reason.

Then, if lucky, you will do an interrupt test over zoom - nice and fun but testing how well you can do two things at once.

Then I am in uncharted territory! you have a date to select an assessment centre and go from there! Good luck with your application!


Hmm... So the practice tests they give you are nothing like the actual tests? I only applied in the last week and a half, and i still am waiting for them to send me the tests

Karmadillo 6th March 2025 02:36

A/C Brisbane Mid March
 
Got a confirmation of attending the A/C session in Brisbane next week. Might see you there cerulean 🙂 good luck everyone.

Obiwan3617135 6th March 2025 18:15


Originally Posted by Karmadillo (Post 11841689)
Got a confirmation of attending the A/C session in Brisbane next week. Might see you there cerulean 🙂 good luck everyone.

I’ll see you there. Would love to know everyone’s timeline of getting there cause mine felt quite short! I did the initial testing on 22/2. Interrupt test on 5/3 and now A/C for the 13/3. Cheers guys and goodluck!

nrsohn 9th March 2025 01:45

I have done the domain test and the interrupt test and I may be able to help you rather than you wasting your time with the SHL test. DM me if you want.

ceruleanskies 9th March 2025 07:06


Originally Posted by Obiwan3617135 (Post 11842218)
I’ll see you there. Would love to know everyone’s timeline of getting there cause mine felt quite short! I did the initial testing on 22/2. Interrupt test on 5/3 and now A/C for the 13/3. Cheers guys and goodluck!

Wow that's really quick! My timeline so far:
02/11/2024 - Completed Application
27/11/2024 - Sent Round 1 Testing
30/11/2024 - Completed Round 1 Testing

09/12/2024 - Invited to Interrupt Test
11/12/2024 - Undertook Interrupt Test
12/12/2024 - Placed on Hold Pending Assessment Centre

06/02/2025 - Invited To Assessment Centre
12/03/2025 - Assessment Centre

fernandobale 9th March 2025 07:47

oh wow, 2 months wait to get the invite for the assessment centre. I passed the interrupt this week and was also put on hold for the assessment centre, i guess id be waiting for a while

ceruleanskies 11th March 2025 11:44

Brisbane AC's postponed due to Cyclone Alfred. Now being held first week of April

🙃


fernandobale 11th March 2025 18:13


Originally Posted by ceruleanskies (Post 11845275)
Brisbane AC's postponed due to Cyclone Alfred. Now being held first week of April

🙃


At least youve got a confirmed date haha, you given thought to whether youll pick tower or enroute

ceruleanskies 12th March 2025 01:23


Originally Posted by fernandobale (Post 11845559)
At least youve got a confirmed date haha, you given thought to whether youll pick tower or enroute

I have already preferenced Tower as they are looking to run a tower course in NZ in May. They did a trial last year of outsourcing the training you can read about here. A few weeks ago, they asked current applicants waiting for an AC for expressions of interest in the NZ course, as it would be a short turnaround between the AC's and the start of the course.

fernandobale 12th March 2025 03:22

oh yea, i wouldnt mind that actually, dont know if i get go to NZ as an Aussie PR not citizen tho. But it does show they do plan on recruiting a fair number of atcs which helps our chances.
but damn man, ive only waited a week since i passed the interrupt and got placed on hold but it feels like ive been waiting ages


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