Me neither,
35kts has been used and a 30degree angle.
The correct answer is 25kts, 40 degrees = 20kt crosswind component.

In the example marked on that picture, 30 degrees has been used and a 40 knot wind. The line is drawn down to the 40 knot arc, then straight down for the crosswind component and across for the headwind, 20 and 30 respectively.

In the other example "If there is a wind on runway 03 reported as 350/25, what is the crosswind component?" The angle is 40 degrees (the difference between 350 and 030) and wind strength 25 knots. So trace down the 40 radial till you get to the 25 knots arc, then straight down for your crosswind component of about 16 knots.

New Applications
 

There has been a change to the applications page......

We are continuing to review our requirements for Air Traffic Controller recruitment and training. At present applications for the ATCO role remain closed, but a further announcement will be made before Christmas.

I had previously emailed NATS and they advised they would reopen September/October.

Yeah, I've just checked it too... it's getting really annoying..:( Does anyone know a way of contact perchance where they can say something more concrete?

You can always try their facebook page?

mts1,
sorry for posting the wrong answer, stevep64 is correct, it is 16kt. I haven't used one of those charts for a long while!

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perhaps a little explanation is in order chaps.

The Runway number is usually correct to within 1 degree of the heading it is on.

A Runway 08 will be on a heading of 080 degrees.

So it tells you the direction of the runway.

The 330/15 format for wind is the wind heading (where it is coming FROM) and the wind-speed in Knots. In that example, it's coming from a heading of 330 degrees at fifteen knots.

Hope that helps,

Phil

Not true. Runway 24 could have a heading of anywhere between 235 to 244 degrees.

Going by your logic it would be impossible to have a runway with a heading ending in 2,3,4,5,6,7 or 8.

Regarding the numerical test, do any problems imply using the quadratic equation formula??. i.e. x^2+ 34x+21=0

anyone here knows when will be next available dates for Stage 1?

Matichk

I am in the same boat, waiting to book my Stage 1. I presume with the extension of this delay for new applicants that it could be sometime yet during next year so i've been looking at other possibilities in the aviation industry. I recently applied for 2 jobs working with easyJet in their operations control centre department at Hangar 89. They seem to have quite a lot of jobs going at the moment and keep adding daily!

What happens after the psychometric testing?
 

Hi guys. I passed stage 2 in July and was sent an email with a link & password etc to do a psychometric test to be completed within a week. I completed it in the requested time, but I haven't heard anything back yet! I have tried (about once a week) to contact NATS on their recruitment number but only ever get 2 leave a message & no-one ever calls back. I've also tried 2 contact the main switchboard but can never speak 2 anyone there either.

Any advice or information greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Frustrated Candidate!

GTA_Turbo,

Don't worry, there are many people in exactly the same boat (myself included), it's just a case of relaxing, sitting tight and waiting for Stage 3 dates to open up and everything will get moving again.

I know it's slightly frustrating but just makes me want it even more!!

That's great, thanks.
The question I would ask though is, would they tell you if you had been unsuccessful? Or are we just in limbo?

Yes, they would tell you if you'd failed Stage 2. Also, from the NATS website:

"If you were successful on assessment day two you'll be invited to complete an online occupational personality questionnaire"

You said you've taken the tests after Stage 2 so you're all good.

For what it's worth, if you read back over recent months on this thread, there are a plethora of people in the same boat. It's just a case of waiting

I emailed them today and the next wave isn't until new year now.

GTA I'm in exactly the same situation as you. Had my stage 2 in July, sent off the questionnaire and haven't heard since. Unfortunately I think it's just a matter of waiting.

Gradient

Can u not fail the psychometric part of the assessment?

Initial on-line test.
 

Hello all, thank God I've found you!

I've been trawling the internet for a while trying to find some useful information on atco assessment and training and this forum is the best so far.

I am waiting to put in my first application to NATS but, as you're all aware, they've frozen recruitment and I need to wait for an announcement sometime before Christmas.

In the meantime I've already started using brain training software, looking at options like the FEAST training software and just generally getting my head around all the information that's out there about stages 1, 2 and 3 of the selection process. What I haven't been able to find out about is the on-line test I will have to take when I initially apply.

Can anyone shed any light on it for me? I know it's not meant to be something you study for but I wouldn't mind having a little heads up.

Any thoughts or comments much appreciated.

Yes, I was asked about family (I had wife/kids). Or I may have brought it up.

Anyway I told them the truth, that i had a partner and she was supportive. I don't think being in a relationship (or not) affects your suitability for training.

Whatever your situation, just be honest. If you try to fool them, you are really just fooling yourself and setting your self up for a fall. Recruitment is stringent because the training is tough and NATS know what they are looking for and have a good reason for the criteria

I don't think I was asked about that, not sure though since I'm also blessed with a very supportive girl in my life, but as far as I can recall they didn't ask.

I wasn't asked directly but since they said at interview there would be a long wait (some 12+ months) until I get posted, they asked what am I gonna do, so I said I'll spend some extra time with my other half since I won't have so much time for him when I start the college. They just laughed:) Whatever they ask you say what you're comfortable with them knowing about your personal life.

Oh and anyone here now been posted on the January course? If so, do you have a date? Cos I don't :rolleyes:

Deltacat13:
I thought I was starting the 230 course in January, but that date was only provisional. 230 has been moved back to April/May now. So we've got a little longer to wait! Have you definitely been allocated to 230?

And has anybody else for that matter? :)

SALH:
Interesting. I didn't get a provisional date, I got a provisional posting, thought that was different. Were you emailed with this information? Are you doing Area or Aerodrome 230?

milamber

check PM

Intresting, isn't that a step back towards the old training system? I have a faint memory that a few years ago you started doing aerodrome, then some went on to approach and then from approach some went on to radar.

Oh that's interesting. I've been nagging too but clearly I haven't done enough to get such an email. Well thanks for the info, appreciated :)

Crazy Voyager
Have you done your medical then?

Yep, got my class 3 so all that is sorted :)

Oh cool, don't you feel sooo healthy ;) And you not been posted yet?

Considering I just had the flu and been home all week, so no I don't feel too healthy :}


I mailed them and they said that my planned start date is in August next year. As for preferences it seems they've changed it (like someone said a few posts back) so that everyone goes to a basic course and then the college decides "based on business need".

Yeah I know, that's a bummer. I mean not everyone got their first choice before but at least you knew from the beginning of the course what you were gonna end up doing... It's nice for you to know so far ahead, it gives you a chance to plan a bit, I was only given 3 mnths, rush rush rush.
Hope you feel well soon then:\

Yeah it's good to have an idea of when it will be, it was pretty much when I guessed though based on the waiting time they told me I could expect.

Will be intresting to here from people how this new way with a joint basic course is working out and how it affects peoples preferences.

maths
 

Hi, just a quick question, about the maths test, are the problems set with 3 variables or 2?. I guess 1 is way to easy. Excusme me for my ignorance, but 3 variables is the maximum that can be mathematically set, right?. Thanks

q'
 

A train can travel 50% faster than a car. Both start from point A at the same time and reach point B 75 kms away from A at the same time. On the way, however, the train lost about 12.5 minutes while stopping at the stations. The speed of the car is:
[A]. 100 kmph[B]. 110 kmph[C]. 120 kmphhttp://www.indiabix.com/_files/image...ite/accept.png[D]. 130 kmph Answer: Option C






Can anybody explain WHY it is 120 please?. Thanks