Originally Posted by highwideandugly
(Post 10574655)
Newcastle is very interesting at the moment! |
Originally Posted by kcockayne
Isn’t that the case everywhere ? I spent 38 years in ATC & the vast majority - but not all - of the managers that I came across were of “ lesser ability” when it came to actual controlling .
But the really important question is were they any good as managers? |
Usually NO!
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Originally Posted by LookingForAJob
(Post 10575279)
Very true.
But the really important question is were they any good as managers? |
Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 10574738)
Haven't they got a controller they can promote to the post or is the manager not required to have an ATCO licence?
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"In ATC, when heads roll, they roll uphill!" I think I'm quoting correctly from the long lost ATC magazine "On Watch" about fifty years ago, in turn quoting, I think, a Canadian source. You, Keith, should know how true that was, given the procession of the incompetent, the lying, the self-serving and the stupid we had to work with and for! I may not be the "Ace of the Base" but my career was blocked by a person I considered, with some justification and staff agreement, was most incompetent operational controller in history! |
Originally Posted by Jay Doubleyou
(Post 10577202)
"In ATC, when heads roll, they roll uphill!" I think I'm quoting correctly from the long lost ATC magazine "On Watch" about fifty years ago, in turn quoting, I think, a Canadian source. You, Keith, should know how true that was, given the procession of the incompetent, the lying, the self-serving and the stupid we had to work with and for! I may not be the "Ace of the Base" but my career was blocked by a person I considered, with some justification and staff agreement, was most incompetent operational controller in history! My career was blocked by a person I considered, with some justification and staff agreement, was the most incompetent ATS manager in history.https://www.pprune.org/images/icons/46.gif |
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Thanks for your PM last week! I thoroughly agree with what you said but didn't have much success in replying by private message, and I don't think I should say anything more on the public forum! |
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Anyone know what's going on at Newcastle? Heard they were doing interviews this week.
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They were advertising for a tower position and it seems to be the strangest situation. An ex colleague of mine said There was no Satco or training department member at the interview, it was carried out by HR and an operations manager. So no scenarios or sim runs..... |
Originally Posted by tcm1707
(Post 10598283)
Anyone know what's going on at Newcastle? Heard they were doing interviews this week.
Apparently they’ve appointed a new SATCO that is a single rated controller with less than 5 years ATC experience. Obvious not bothered about knowledge and experience, if you want to climb the ladder, head up there!!!! |
Not what you know..but who you know? |
Originally Posted by Digby15
(Post 10606490)
No, really, what IS going on at Newcastle??? Apparently they’ve appointed a new SATCO that is a single rated controller with less than 5 years ATC experience. Obvious not bothered about knowledge and experience, if you want to climb the ladder, head up there!!!! |
Im sure due diligence by the interview team has been done and the successful candidate has ticked all the appropriate boxes? |
Leeds/Bradford are hiring, does anybody know anything about the conditions there?
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Looking for a job.....Said it before but still valid - what matters is whether they can manage a unit....un quote, However ,with less than five years experience and one rating...the candidate must have shown some amazing qualities to impress and pass such an intense interview? Wonder if he/she can sort Brexit out for us all? |
Maybe no one out of the more experienced staff wants the job?
Besides. 5 years or thereabouts is plenty to be a SATCO. |
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