The big boys want to play too!

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Think it's fair to say the shortage is back...

Everyone is waiting for big boy Heathrow to advertise, happening soon so the rumours say :oh::}

Does anyone have a link to NATS pay scales and terms and conditions?

But the T&C's continue to decline . . . . perhaps.

What is 28 days leave plus statuary leave mean??? confusing thing to say. Do they mean 28 days plus PH = 36??

28days+ph is what they refer to. This increases after 8years to 30+ph after 10years 33+ph. Im not aware of any reductions to this either.

St Athan - only ADI required. Via Serco.

I saw an ad for locals only TOWER ATC in Aus...
Anyone with connections know if they are going to consider international applications?

NATS now advertising for ATCOs at in Gib!

"From £35k" salary? Surely a typo?

Still, cheap Booze and Fags.....but you'd have to get through a fair bit to make up the £25k-£35k shortfall against a relatively standard radar ATCO pay scale

I've enjoyed reading the opinions on this thread, but the original premise of it annoys me a bit. When I was looking for jobs a couple of years ago, I scoured every available resource that would be likely to advertise an ATCO job, pretty much daily. Then people would drop a lazy topic in here saying 'any jobs going?' and potentially create competition that would not otherwise have been there. And I was not an attractive proposition, so competition was not welcome.

If you're looking for a job, get off your arse and look for it yourself instead if waiting for someone else to put in the effort for you. Ta :ok:

Fair point Ginge. In the good old days before personal computers and pprune had been thought of, there was only one way to find out about ATC and to apply for a job, and that was to get off your posterior and do a lot of research and general spade work yourself. This tended to attract only those with a genuine interest and indeed a latent passion for the job. In fact, the selection interview usually included questions on how you found out about ATC and how much you knew about operational procedures and the company in general. I remember when the CAA, shortly to become NATS, first advertised for ATCOs in the more upmarket broadsheets and made mention of the attractive salary which was eventually obtainable. This resulted in trainees coming through the system who had no previous interest in aviation and, my goodness, it really showed! I'm not saying that those trainees who completed the training were eventually less able than previous ones, but the OJTIing was definitely more challenging.

On topic, I hear that Doha are looking for ATCOs and offering a fairly generous package.

Competing priorities at work here. The existing staff at an airport may prefer that they end up training and working with the most 'attractive proposition' available, which means publicising a vacancy as widely as possible, or they may hope that nobody half-decent applies in order to force an improvement in their terms and conditions.

My own view is that ATC workers are best served overall by widespread knowledge of the state of the jobs market, so they know their options or know the best time to push for improvements to T&Cs. Periods of churn in the jobs market and airports poaching experienced staff from each other are the best time for this, and we seem to be in one of those just now.

Luton Airport would be perfect for me! do you think theyll accept me as an apprentice if im within the local area? will i still need to apply to nats careers website??

Yes to the latter, depends what you mean by apprentice for the former

Does anybody know if NATS would consider applicants with ICAO licenses i.e. New Zealand or only those issued in the UK/EU?

They should do; why not ask?

You can ask but I think it's unlikely they would consider anyone without a European license. I'm fairly sure they don't run a conversion course for those holding ICAO licenses rather than UK or European ones.

The way things are staff wise at some of the airports they may be interested if you have those qualifications

Can't hurt to ask

ANS, as well as recruiting experienced ATCOs for Edinburgh, are now advertising for trainee ATCOs.