What local interests? There is NO GA / Corporate aviation in Iraq.

And GLEX's / G5's have been visitors to the country.

New flightglobal ad...

Air Traffic Controller job with Serco Middle East Erbil, Iraq:

Air Traffic Controller with Serco Middle East

:)

Hi Guys!!
 

I am a newbie here....so just passing by to say Hello! :-)

Well...I spent almost an hour to read this thread carefully from the first post....Serco/Baghdad project is still on the go according to my humble info sources. Either you believe it or not i would be ready to apply, no second thought....more than 10 years experience as an ATCO military-civilian mix...in my home country salary is 1200 Euros a month and getting worse...12 months of my life in exchange of approx. 200.000 USD is a a hit and go for me....or even better if SERCO after succesful completion of the 12 months duty could give to "suicidal" types like me a better job offer at a more quite and civilized place of M. East.
Generally looking for an ATCO job in the "sandpit" region and any help or advise would be highly appreciated. I hope farell or any other with some good connections could PM me.

Thank you guys :-)
I am happy that found you, its nice to see pros that are sharing the same concerns, problems with you. I intent to stay at this forum ...
like this place :-)

I watched the kindly provided video of Baghdad Hilton.......(much more carefully than first time)... I only would like to add my 2 cents....it is apparently obvious that all things is a matter of point of view and..."reality" is rather subjective. We had two guys working and living at the same enviroment having two completely different views.... after watching the video didnt see something that cannot live with if they pay me 200K plus a year...in my part of the world...thats a lot of money...and no....I dont live in a Third World country :-)

I hope to find an ATCO job in a better place but if i end up in Baghdad wont be the end of the world.

Have a nice day to all!!

Update on serco and jobs etc?
 

G'day all,

Just wondering whats happening out in the sand? Is serco staying? are there still jobs etc?

cheers

SERCO is hiring in Baghdad
 

SERCO's contract has been extended. They just have not worked out the details. There was a job opening announcement in flight global in the last week for permanent ATCO's for Baghdad.

ATC
 

Can you tell me if there is any truth to Serco not hiring prior military for the ATC jobs in Baghad?

Prior Military = OK
 

We have plenty of ex-Military from many countries working in Baghdad. SERCO will not hire controllers that have only Military ATC experience. You must have Civilian ATC experience. I think 5 yrs. Civilian experience is the minimum, but the more the better. You also need 5 years OJTI experience. The requirement for civilian ATC experience is a directive from the host country. This is not a SERCO originated requirement.

As you guys are still out here-what´s this "new procedure" that the Tower does not allow our helicopters to fly south of both runways (even when taking of from SouthMike)?

Copters in the way?
 

The reason, with no commentary - It is believed that copters departing south into on coming jet traffic that is landing to the North is unsafe. I know,I know.

I was looking at the Serco Iraq announcement.

What is the difference between Approach Radar (APR) and Approach Procedural (APP)? These must be UK/Euro terms.... In the US we are either:

1. Approach Control (aka TRACON)
2. Enroute Centre (aka Area Control or ARTCC) or
3. Tower (aka ATCT)

We don't have anything called APR or APP. Thanks.

APP - Approach without radar i.e. using procedures for separation. It requires a large forehead, a sharp pencil and a bit of Jedi mind trickery.

"This isn't the VOR you're looking for...."

Approach Radar (APR) and Approach Procedural (APP)
 

Approach Radar is the standard Radar approach Control like you would find in the states. The approach Procedural rating is a non radar course rating.

Thanks for the clarification Knuckles....I'm guessing I won't be coming to Baghad as I only have about 4years civilian and no OJTI....27 years military. Ah well.....

Contract extension
 

Any update on the extension talks? Heard it isn't going as well as expected. Also, are you guys finally working a decent schedule? Did you ever get the promised 6/4 the other Serco contracts have?

6/4
 

last word is that everyone with a deadline of 31 Dec will be extended until the numbers for the new contract are worked out. We have never worked a 6/4. We get a sleep day after the mid and then a day/night off.

6/4
 

So when you get off the mid is the remainder of that day classified as your sleep day? Then you get one more day off? Sounds like you're really only getting one day off.

Not a lot of fun and nowhere to go of a Saturday night!:{

6/4 pt2
 

When you get off a mid, you have the rest of that day and night off - your sleep day, and the next 24 hours after.

You forgot to add......."staffing permitting" :rolleyes: