Going to have DART in march.
Guys, who passed it, can you write me PM, i have some questions...

Why in PM?? We all have questions about real DART vs prep tools.

After going through both major preparation tools, I suspect at this time that the DART cannot be cheated through these tools...I will perhaps change my opinion after taking the test...in 1 week or so...

georgica
I see you are from Romania, are you sure you're going to take the DART in 1 week or so?

Because the people from ROMATSA told us the DART test are going to take place in March, do you know something else?

Thank you,
Alex

Does anybody know about mental mathematic in DART...'cause my friends, told me, that we will have some math's exercises...???
Who passed it, please send me PM, i have some questions...

if you passed the required school level, you should laugh when you see the math tasks.

I'm not scary about it...))) i don't see that variant in which i will fail...

My Experience..
 

Hi Guys,

I've been out of this forum quite long, since I've finished EC's selection.

Today I opened this forum by chance, just to look what's going on here.

So I've started my selection on January 2010 making FEAST I and II, then I made the final interview on late Feb.

The day after I came back to my country when they informed me about my failure.. What a shock!
After several days, the guy from HR who interviewed me, called to give me the "feedback". That was very kind of him.

Among variuos things, they decided not to take me on because of my english prep.

After that call I've started to collect all of those information to improve my whole preparation (I was about to start the selection for my national provider), the failure was not an option, so I've done a great effort to be the best candidate to have access to the Academy.

This morning I was reading your posts, about experiences, tips and advices, therefore, after a couple of years, I decided to give some "sharp" infos, hoping that you'll go there fully prepared.

The first thing comes from my mind bring us to the end. The feedback.

The clearest memory of that interview is when they asked me about my sentimental relashionship. At the time I was engaged and they asked me a lot of things about my girlfriend.. Quite a lot! Too many..

Months later I realized how much they invest on you, how they can't afford any chances of failure during training.

Be sure to keep in mind that they rely also on your "personal" situation, don't think that asking if you have a girlfriend it's just a "friendly question".

The HR guy didn't mention about my sentimental relationship in the feedback, but i'm firmly sure that my answer was important.

Be sharp, be awake, be yourself, be prepared:

Gathering infos about FEAST is a good thing: you don't have to be prepared as they teach you every single part of the test, but going there with a previous idea of what you're going to do is much better.

Try to make friendship,

You'll meet a lot of guys who are going to make the same selection, be together, especially the day before, helps you to keep calm..

Be confident,

Especially in the second phase, you'll have to do the group discussion and the prep. of a flight plan that you're going to explain to the board. You have to speak in front of people (psychologist), keep that in mind.

Before to go there, ask you some questions, like: Why I want to be an ATC? Can seems a weird question, but I'm sure you know the importance of knowing your personal answer.

The test are long, stressful, hard and quick... Be fully rested, be calm and act like you're going to start a marathon, not a 100mt sprint.

We were about 60 of us. Only 4 (including me) were invited to the final interview. As far as we know, nobody was took on in the company.

After two years, i've succeded the selection for my national provider. I'm still waiting to start the course.

EC was a great experience that helped me to face another selection in a better way.

Hoping I was of any help, don't hesitate to ask anything you want..!

xnnfm

Thank you for sharing these thoughts!
 

Thank you xnnfm for sharing your thoughts about how these tests and selection in general should be approached.
Your post is very interesting!

Congratulations for your success!
How did you prepare yourself psychologically for the selection you have attended with your national service provider?
Where is the course going to take place? In Italy or abroad? How long is it?
Do you have any information about the structure of the course?

What differences did you find between EC's selection and your national provider's selection structure/composition?

How did you find the DART?
What do you think is important when taking the DART test, besides being fully rested, calm, self confident and aware of its complexity?

Thanks again!

meonly

Thanks a lot xnnfm,

yours was the first really helpful post since long in this thread.

For suggestions like "dress smart, rest well and research the company for the interview" I'll go to some general recruitment site I guess. You don't need a specialized thread in a specialized forum for that.

Thanks again xnnfm and congrats for your success!

As a reminder the thread was about Eurocontrol testing and interviews ...
Only from a certain moment was it polluted by FEAST specific questions , mainly for selections which had nothing to do with Eurocontrol.

Now if potential Eurocontrol candidates on this forum prefer to listen to 'advises' from people who have actually failed the Eurocontrol Selection as opposed to following the hints from 'insiders' (read the ones who have passed the selection AND have qualified as ATCOs for MUAC...fine!(:ugh:)

However , if I may , and assuming they pass the selection:hmm:they'll probably learn the hard way that smart ar:mad: have no place in an OPS room.

@ LevelD:

Im glad you said it, because I have given up.

It seems some people just cant be helped.

With the attitude displayed by some of the recent posters to this thread, if they somehow made it through the FEAST, their time in OPS will likely be short lived.

@ Aldebaran:

NOBODY likes a smart arse, and 'yes, but' people fall on their sword pretty quickly.

feast test
 

Hello everyone

Did anyone know a website or a program like feasttest.com?

Please if you know something, in order to make practice it will be very useful for all the new candidates
Thank you

It won't be useful for anyone!

Read the thread.

@Hi Meonly


To be sincere, EC's experience was vital in succeeding in my country.
Your brain, mind, psyco situation in general is very important to face a selection like this and training is important too as it allow you to improve.

EC's selection was my training in the end.

I went to my national provider's selection very prepared.

In fact in the final interview they asked me why I acted so confident in the group discussion..

Also a failure it's absolutely important to improve. I failed EC but I learned where I did wrong and what was the answer to their (and mine too) questions..
Like the most stupid one: Why would you like to be an ATC, and why here, with us.. etc etc..

Anyway, the course will take plane in my country, but not in my city, it lasts about 14 months.
I've already have some infos about the course structure as some candidates started in Oct.

Basically they start with some subject as AvioRights, Navigation, Wheater.. some people said they're boring.. time will tell..

Then there is the simulation part, divided in some levels. As far as I know, is a section with high failure rating... (3-7%).

the final phase include english prep, airplane sim and final exams..


The main difference between EC and my national provider's selection is that EC rely mainly on avio prep.

Every excercise includes and it's based on aeronautic preparation. It's more interesting if you like the context...

Two years ago there where the FEAST. I found it very strong in terms of energy consumption.
Everybody talks about be fully rested: it's true and you can understand it only when you experience it.
Are you a sportsman? do you know how hard is to do an endurance sport?
I was lucky in that way because when you're trained to sustain a long session of training for a race, you also (and mainly train) your mind to be in a perfect shape even after several hours of test.

Hope I was of any help to everybody..


When will you go to EC?

Thank you a lot xnnfm!

Your posts in this thread are so useful! At least for me, I feel so.

Understanding from other posts that practicing tests for FEAST doesn't help too much, I have begun questioning myself what other kind of preparation can be useful and your posts offered me the answers I was looking for.

I hope to be as successful as you have been.

I' not going for the EC.
I'm preparing for my national service provider's selection and I was very interested if I could do anything to improve my abilities for the DART, which concerns me the most. I hope I will be able to calibrate my efforts during the test, in order to invest the optimum doze of energy needed for completing the test from start to end, of course, with the positive result expected so much.

Also thank you for the info about the course structure.

Regards,
meonly

Hey guys. Who had DART test, tell me please how many of non-contrlled(gray ones) aircraft did you have?
Next monday i'm going to have it, and a little worried about...i'm really good in simulator training, but i don't like this computer games where you should control a/c by the keyboard and mouse...

xnnfm,

may I ask you what kind of italian diploma's were accepted for EC, and was there a scoring limit (like for eg. 80/100 min)? Thanks

Hey guys ! I took dart today and it was pretty amazing . I had some potential conflicts which 4 ended up to be real conflicts . Other tham that all was ok . No resets no missed checks few wrong sums . Any ideea if i ll pass?

in greece or eurocontrol?

Ahhhooowww!)))
I've just passed DART...if you have any question, welcome to PM)