BB
 

Best contact the contract managers directly for the latest...too many questions to little time and things are evolving as we type so the information you are getting on here may not be accurate or more typically may be a fluffy perception someone might have on what is really going on .

Part of the aptitude testing in getting a job out here of course is to find the contract managers addresses.....:E

BB32
Basically you get about 34K per month into the bank and as single or married without kids a housing allowance of 190K per year in two halves by cheque. You will spend almost all of that allowance on an apt. Pay rise is due this month and if rumours are to be believed it will be around 10%.

BB
 

Make sure of course you know which contract you are looking at as all the packages are different:

UAE ACC (GCAA)
UAE ACC (SERCO)
AA APP (SERCO)
AA APP (ADAC)
DB APP (SERCO)

.....to name but a few

Good luck :ok:

Well alright! Hey thanks for taking me this far. Seems like you guys have fun out there

Question ...
 

Is there a contract to TWR ATC?

Can I get some contacts?

RS

Feeling the Love
 

Dude, as we say back here...

YOU'RE THE SHIZNIT!

Shuski
 

Please tell me you are reading the thread....Verci gave you a horrible hint on where to start only 5 posts ago! :hmm:

And there I was thinking we were in an educated percentage of the community, c'mon guys, read the threads and search the threads as the same information is repeated on numerous occasions....let your fingers do the walking! :bored:

hi guys! happy new year to all of u! Is there any possibility to get ATCO's job in UAE from respectively low traffic areas?
Thank u in advance!:)

Yeah i saw that
 

Hey brother don't call me out like that ;-). I'm still in the fact finding mode and hopping around a little. Getting home from work and surfing to find out stuff.

Man, you gotta give a guy a break here.

Thanks!!
 

Your awnser was quite helpfull:sad:. I'm not an ATC, but an ATC's wife ...

Looking for a way to help him get something he want .... but sometimes i get a bit confused with all abreviations ...

And i did read the post, but further down you only talked about ACC or APP and i don't think he has this quailfications ...

But ok, he'll make the call :(

Thanks!!

Another quicker method is to look at somebodies post that has some involvement or knowledge of the unit and PM (Personal Message) them.

With only a tower rating, employment in the Middle East contracts will be very limited.

I have tried to avoid using any abbreviations. :E

RAK was, but not certain todays game
 

RAK had NO radar control, until tomorrow.

They do have a video game consol.

SERCO unit also.

glf

Hello Boys you will excuse me for invsion in such remarkable
discussion. First of all I need to say a big thanks for yours information,
which helps me to make picture more or less clear. It is obvious Dubai
is not in the least a land of promise.
But let know something else about ATC,s job in Dobai.
-Are APP and TWR divided into a few sectors?
-Do they have the Ground?
-How long does it take to be in a status of trinee?
-Is the salary the same during probation period?
-Do they accept ATCOs who are not from UK, USA, EU,
NZ, or Australia?

Hope I don,t ask too much.
Any answers would be appreciated.
Best regards Michael.:confused:

Hi Michael

Dubai compared to many places is still tops so dont get the wrong impression. Of course its not heaven but hey where is heaven in this world anyway.

To answer your questions:

APP and TWR are divided yes. TWR has ground, one controller for each runway, one ground and one clearance delivery and one coordinator/supervisor.

APP: is divideded into DEP ARR and Director

Trainee duration is set to a maximum of 40 days and recently has been strictly applied. This meant a couple of newcomers going home.

Yes salary is same.

You missed South Africa, Canada. If you are from East Europe or not in the list mentioned its hard. They always look for people coming from busy airports and preferably (if not strictly) native english speaking. If you don't satisfy the above mentioned criteria you have to wait until the next controller shortage crisis and then you might stand a chance. Having said that if you are interested you should still apply.

If you need more info pm me.

Hope that answers your questions

To Falcon
 

I just came to think of it. I should have asked your permission before I PMed you.
I appologize.

No worries
 

Falcon is an open house - no permissions needed!! :ok: Cheers

To be exact, FOUR (4) New Trainees got the CHOP!!!:sad:

Where were these trainees from? Any ex-NATS? :sad:

Going Home
 

Tin-Bullet you are right but two have been given an alternative posting.

Loxley - They were not NATS guys. NATS controllers are too good to be fired unlike us other poor mortals who had to learn what ATC is all about!

Failure to check out
 

I would never wish for anybody to fail a check, however, I hope there were a couple of Yanks amongst those who didn''t make it. There are (were?) a couple who operate in their own little world and even speak a language all their own :)

@Loxley

@TheFalcon

Let's not start a slanging match, with all respect to NATS & other Expats personnel.......

Although, it's true none of them came from NATS, one of 2009's 1st resignations came from an ex-NATS ATCO!.......And you would not bet how long he's been here........

@African Queen

Sorry Mate, from which planet are you from? do you enjoy taking pleasure from someone's pain? Or is it some sort of 'SOUR GRAPES' from your part?:yuk:

Get a LIFE.......:mad::mad::mad:

Prowler, i don`t think the length of time has anything to do with it and I am not sure what you are trying to imply.
If you know anything about it you must be aware that it had nothing to do with either being ex Nats or working at DXB. A loss to the unit!

I never tried to IMPLY anything, in fact if you read ALL the post, you can confirm that I have NOTHING AGAINST NATS ex personnel.....

Infact,

In some ways I agree with you if it was a loss for the unit or not......but tell it to the PSV List candidates.........:=

Much Appreciation
 

I am new and would like to say, thank you very much for all the important info you have provided. I am attempting to funnel all of this into a minor understanding of how things work over in the UAE and still don't have my head wrapped around it.

I am very close to leaving for Afghanistan for a job but want to explore my options before leaving my wife.

I am an American controller who did the Air Force route and am now a contract tower controller in Oklahoma after passing up the FAA for hope of a better route.

I have contacted a couple of the people you mentioned earlier via e-mail about information on these jobs and am awaiting reply.

;)

Yo Bongo...

Don't worry mate, none of us here have either!! :p

Good luck in the 'Gan' mate, keep your head down and don't trust anyone at the gate of the compound waving their arms in the air repeatedly yelling 'dirka dirka'!! ;)

Employable in UAE?
 

Hi all.

Returned from UAE/Serco 4 years ago when the RJ age limit was reached: 58 + 2 in RAK if rqd.

Is the Rhesus factor still applied? Or has the age discrimination ceased??

POC

Not an RJ thing unfortunately, a CARS thing and being enforced strictly. We have another of our brethren that is having no luck with the "Authority' regarding this restriction. I believe the way it is written though is that it is unit specific (taking into account traffic levels complexity etc.) and that's how the Al Ain and RAK young fellah's ;) could get away with it. I believe there is some Al Ain controllers in this boat at the moment too.

No doubt somebody in the loop will be able to shed more light on the issue as we have a few approaching their new youth! :p

Advice taken Fox! :ok:

I recieved reply and forwarded my details. Looks like everythings booked up for now but maybe soon I'll be making the trip over.

Are many 'yanks' over there :)?

Also I was wondering a bit more about the dog situation, I followed the links posted earlier in the thread but one was broken. Are you limited to certain places to live with a dog?

pocpicadoor,

At the end of the day, the answer is Yes regardless of the timeless and questionable history of the ruling.

Bongo,

We have a bunch of Americans on the doorstep now. Good lads and seem to be coming to grips with this novel part of the world.

Dogs are limited to villas unless its one of those dogs that fits into the letter box and then you might get away with it in apartments. Truth is though, even on the new contracts, not many can reasonably afford villas on the island, out in the desert slightly cheaper but hard to find. :)

What about motorcycles/scooters? Are they popular there or allowed? Seems that might be a small solution for the gridlock you all mention.

Bongo,

I have limited knowledge of the UAE and Dubai having only visited a couple of times. However, although they're allowed, I'm fairly certain you would have to be borderline insane to even consider riding a motorbike or scooter out there................. :} :ok:

Couple of the boys have motorbikes, best you make your own appraisal of the traffic when you get here.

Personally, I think its safer to play with throwing knives blindfolded standing one legged on a greasy drum! :\

Soory mate could you clarify what does it mean
;dirka dirka;?
I have a lot of gaps in my English :confused::confused::confused:

Watch Team America.....:}

Decent Australian
 

Any decent Australian out there whom I might PM?

Thanks for the best laugh I've had all week. Genius.

:p

I completed and returned a 'potential staff worksheet' to a contract manager yesterday. If any Serco people in Dubai could pm me I have a quick question. Any help is appreciated.

Cheers.
:ok:

we can try to help if we can.....

Just hindsight.......

Recruitment for BOTH Dubai OMDB & Jebel Ali OMJA has been put 'On Hold'!

Latest dates for Jebel Ali is JUNE 2010...... yes 2010!!:confused::confused::confused:

Good Luck!

Is that a projected date based upon not losing anyone at all? Are you that overstaffed?
:sad:

Ummmm more to do with no aeroplanes, after all, the AN12's have been banned from UAE so there goes 70% of Jebal Ali's target market! :E