For number lovers
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For number lovers
It is very popular these days so it comes to my mind to express salary over the carrier time span.
01.10.2001- first full ATCO salary- x grams of gold
31.05.2004.- APS rating- 4x
01.01.2014- first full CRCO payment salary 2x
As of today, x+ 0,2g of gold.
Of course, it is all rellative to time and value, but I remember season 2004/2005 that salary was really serious within community.
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01.10.2001- first full ATCO salary- x grams of gold
31.05.2004.- APS rating- 4x
01.01.2014- first full CRCO payment salary 2x
As of today, x+ 0,2g of gold.
Of course, it is all rellative to time and value, but I remember season 2004/2005 that salary was really serious within community.
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From: Mauritius,soon or latter
It also come to my mind that different commodities will telll different stories.
chewing gum- was 1 DM over most of time .
In that sense
01.10.01 X
31.05. 04 5X
01.01.14 4x
1today 8-9x
But as I wrotte it happened that best gold ratio also refflects best part of carrier... work at challenge airport enviroment coupled with living in grreat city with more than great salary ( when compared to local standard) ...
chewing gum- was 1 DM over most of time .
In that sense
01.10.01 X
31.05. 04 5X
01.01.14 4x
1today 8-9x
But as I wrotte it happened that best gold ratio also refflects best part of carrier... work at challenge airport enviroment coupled with living in grreat city with more than great salary ( when compared to local standard) ...
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From: Mauritius,soon or latter
I have some idea what number in the context of buying real estate could be- but I find it very challenging to determine . At least what is decent real estate? Milion people- milion answers.
wide guess:
Any real estate, suitable for work at my unit- 2-3 month salaries....
Some medium solutions , neither anything nor decent 10 month/ salaries ( net)
Decent, that will attract my attention, both for location and quality- not below 36 salaries..
wide guess:
Any real estate, suitable for work at my unit- 2-3 month salaries....
Some medium solutions , neither anything nor decent 10 month/ salaries ( net)
Decent, that will attract my attention, both for location and quality- not below 36 salaries..
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It depends completely where you want to live and where you ATS unit is located. Take Germany for instance in the Frankfurt / and Langen area it is very expensive to own a house, but same house in Hahn airport for instance is roughly 5 times cheaper
in France , a house in Reims is roughly half the price of Bordeaux or Orly , and 3 times less that Aix en Provence .
I comparing salaries over the year is interesting , I remember the fist time I visited an ATC facility in the US was in 1980 in , the new York Tracon in Long island, where a US controller there was making 80.000 $ a year , and could buy a new car with 1 month salary and buy a house a year salary . OK a prefabricated wood house which is the norm in the US., I was really impressed at the time because in Europe on average in 1980 a new car was out of reach and a family house was around 10 years salary at least .
Today, 45 years later a US NY tracon controller gets around 300.000 USD ( but with overtime on a 6 days a week schedule still unchanged since 1980) can still buy a US car with one month salary but I am not sure if he could buy a house with 300,000, more like double I guess. and In Washington it would be more like 3 years Just guessing .
In Europe today with the average salaries I would say 2 months would be good for a new small car ( not a BMW of course) but a house is still quite a few years , something like 5 years I would guess. But again houses quality in US and Europe is not the same ..But we in Europe improved a lot since the 80s...much more than in the US..
in France , a house in Reims is roughly half the price of Bordeaux or Orly , and 3 times less that Aix en Provence .
I comparing salaries over the year is interesting , I remember the fist time I visited an ATC facility in the US was in 1980 in , the new York Tracon in Long island, where a US controller there was making 80.000 $ a year , and could buy a new car with 1 month salary and buy a house a year salary . OK a prefabricated wood house which is the norm in the US., I was really impressed at the time because in Europe on average in 1980 a new car was out of reach and a family house was around 10 years salary at least .
Today, 45 years later a US NY tracon controller gets around 300.000 USD ( but with overtime on a 6 days a week schedule still unchanged since 1980) can still buy a US car with one month salary but I am not sure if he could buy a house with 300,000, more like double I guess. and In Washington it would be more like 3 years Just guessing .
In Europe today with the average salaries I would say 2 months would be good for a new small car ( not a BMW of course) but a house is still quite a few years , something like 5 years I would guess. But again houses quality in US and Europe is not the same ..But we in Europe improved a lot since the 80s...much more than in the US..
