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SINGAPURCANAC 31st January 2026 19:57

For number lovers
 
It is very popular these days so it comes to my mind to express salary over the carrier time span.
01.10.2001- first full ATCO salary- x grams of gold
31.05.2004.- APS rating- 4x
01.01.2014- first full CRCO payment salary 2x
​As of today, x+ 0,2g of gold.

Of course, it is all rellative to time and value, but I remember season 2004/2005 that salary was really serious within community.

😇

Senior Controller 3rd February 2026 13:48

But the price of a gram of gold today is how many times higher ? but more importantly what was the buying power of a gram of gold in 2000 compared to today ?

Equivocal 3rd February 2026 14:51

There was a time when it seemed to be the tradition in the UK to do it with Mars bars.

SINGAPURCANAC 3rd February 2026 15:43

It also come to my mind that different commodities will telll different stories.
chewing gum- was 1 DM over most of time .
In that sense
01.10.01 X
31.05. 04 5X
01.01.14 4x
​1today 8-9x

But as I wrotte it happened that best gold ratio also refflects best part of carrier... work at challenge airport enviroment coupled with living in grreat city with more than great salary ( when compared to local standard) ...

sheepless 8th February 2026 03:17

My first operational job in the UK (1976) - 2.5 times my salary bought a reasonable house for a first time buyer.

How about today ?

SINGAPURCANAC 8th February 2026 08:27

I have some idea what number in the context of buying real estate could be- but I find it very challenging to determine . At least what is decent real estate? Milion people- milion answers.
wide guess:
Any real estate, suitable for work at my unit- 2-3 month salaries....
Some medium solutions , neither anything nor decent 10 month/ salaries ( net)

Decent, that will attract my attention, both for location and quality- not below 36 salaries..



ATC Watcher 9th February 2026 10:34

It depends completely where you want to live and where you ATS unit is located. Take Germany for instance in the Frankfurt / and Langen area it is very expensive to own a house, but same house in Hahn airport for instance is roughly 5 times cheaper
in France , a house in Reims is roughly half the price of Bordeaux or Orly , and 3 times less that Aix en Provence .

I comparing salaries over the year is interesting , I remember the fist time I visited an ATC facility in the US was in 1980 in , the new York Tracon in Long island, where a US controller there was making 80.000 $ a year , and could buy a new car with 1 month salary and buy a house a year salary . OK a prefabricated wood house which is the norm in the US., I was really impressed at the time because in Europe on average in 1980 a new car was out of reach and a family house was around 10 years salary at least .
Today, 45 years later a US NY tracon controller gets around 300.000 USD ( but with overtime on a 6 days a week schedule still unchanged since 1980) can still buy a US car with one month salary but I am not sure if he could buy a house with 300,000, more like double I guess. and In Washington it would be more like 3 years Just guessing .
In Europe today with the average salaries I would say 2 months would be good for a new small car ( not a BMW of course) but a house is still quite a few years , something like 5 years I would guess. But again houses quality in US and Europe is not the same ..But we in Europe improved a lot since the 80s...much more than in the US..


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