US shutdown. ATC getting close to breaking point?
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Realisation that the political game of 'who blinks first' may have actual real world safety ramifications, yet every year we see the same thing repeated. Is there no better alternative?
Do we really deserve the politicians we vote for?
Do we really deserve the politicians we vote for?
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Do we really deserve the politicians we vote for?
Occupied states. Some of them- have better goverment provided by occupator - than their own.
And last, but not least- ATC system of some particular state- exactly reflects that state. No exception.
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Well , shutdown is over , money due will come in a few weeks , but is the problem it caused solved ?
The lid of the pandora box has been lifted, it is definitively not with this kind of statement that you are going to close it again .
The lid of the pandora box has been lifted, it is definitively not with this kind of statement that you are going to close it again .
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I think not....It may well be that major collapse is on its way...
Great article here > https://reason.org/aviation-policy-n...ment-shutdown/
Great article here > https://reason.org/aviation-policy-n...ment-shutdown/
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kontrolor, That is a very good article indeed. In a past life, I was closely involved in the interactions between airspace users and ANSPs, and in proposing institutional models that would improve and safeguard their efficiency. There are many better business models than the one currently emplyed in the US, the Nav Canada one is a very good example to follow.
The two most important things that are needed are (1) to separate service provision from regulatory oversight (a regulator 'in bed' with the service provider is not a healthy situation), and (2) to provide the ANSP with a revenue stream separate from the whims of politicians.
The two most important things that are needed are (1) to separate service provision from regulatory oversight (a regulator 'in bed' with the service provider is not a healthy situation), and (2) to provide the ANSP with a revenue stream separate from the whims of politicians.
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It won't happen.
It is against bussines aviation interests- so unless something else is offered ( I suppose increased tax on every airliner ticket)- it will be status quo.
With all risks related to such mess.
It is against bussines aviation interests- so unless something else is offered ( I suppose increased tax on every airliner ticket)- it will be status quo.
With all risks related to such mess.
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on NBAA this part of the article explains why .
You can add AOPA lobby in there and indeed it will be difficult to move this in the current administration , But they won't be in power for ever . Once people are prevented to travel freely around the country ,lobbies power will move and policies may change. Who would have bet a year ago to see the current New York mayor getting elected ?
. The business jet lobby group, the National Business Aviation Association (NBAA), pulls out all the stops to prevent its members from facing those fees in the United States because they currently pay only a very small fuel tax that covers about 10% of the cost of the air traffic control services they receive. As an Aug. 10 video editorial from The New York Timesexplained, whenever an airline passenger pays the ticket tax (which is the FAA’s primary revenue source), part of that tax is used to cross-subsidize business jets.
