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Heathrow - Routing off LAM

Old 22nd Nov 2021, 14:47
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Heathrow - Routing off LAM

Looking on FR24 for the first time in ages this morning. Heathrow on Easterlies and most of the LAM traffic was leaving LAM on a SW heading and crossing over to the south side. Is this now standard, if so what would the reason be? I realise many things have changed since I was there, just interested that's all.

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Old 22nd Nov 2021, 16:13
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Interesting. Can you cite an example (time and/or flight number)?

There are some very odd tracks showing on Heathrow's Webtrak for early this afternoon (or might just be a glitch) - not sure if that's connected with what you're seeing.
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Old 22nd Nov 2021, 17:40
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Might they now be able to use 09R for landings and 09L for takeoffs
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Old 22nd Nov 2021, 18:03
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Might they now be able to use 09R for landings and 09L for takeoffs
Not on any regular basis.

And hard to see how or why that would affect inbounds.
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Old 22nd Nov 2021, 20:28
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Dave, it was 1445 UTC. There was one doing a hold a BNN, and about 5 came off LAM on something like a 230 heading. All went for 09L. It just seemed like an dd thing to do, Traffic off BNN did a normal easterlies routing. CXA8711 did the normal north side route off LAM then JAL43 DLH5EL ANA211 QTR7452 (after a spin) then BAW2761 went on the North route.
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Originally Posted by ex-EGLL View Post
Dave, it was 1445 UTC. There was one doing a hold a BNN, and about 5 came off LAM on something like a 230 heading. All went for 09L. It just seemed like an dd thing to do, Traffic off BNN did a normal easterlies routing. CXA8711 did the normal north side route off LAM then JAL43 DLH5EL ANA211 QTR7452 (after a spin) then BAW2761 went on the North route.
happens occasionally if there’s a lot of traffic via LAM and BNN compared to BIG and OCK. Been rerouted LAM>BIG a fair few times over the years albeit, not since COVID.
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Old 22nd Nov 2021, 21:30
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And may well have been another reason, such as airspace infringement or survey aircraft, neither of which may show up on FR24.
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Old 22nd Nov 2021, 23:07
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Thanks Gonzo, the thought of "Operational Requirement" was in the back of my mind. From having controlled there many years decades ago, it just looked very strange!
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No potentially conflicting traffic visible on Webtrak.
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Old 23rd Nov 2021, 19:58
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Exactly…….
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Old 23rd Nov 2021, 21:48
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Meaning....?
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Disclaimer from Web Trak.

Flights may not be shown in WebTrak due to security and/or safety restrictions or temporary systems failures.
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Old 24th Nov 2021, 19:22
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Yes, WebTrak does indeed occasionally fail to show some flights (including the odd Heathrow movement), but they almost always appear within a couple of days.

Still nothing showing retrospectively for Monday afternoon that would cause embarrassment to a LAM arrival, nor anything on Mode S at a height/position that would produce a potential conflict.

I guess we'll never know the reason ...
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I think the OP does now.
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 07:22
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Spooky ...
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 13:13
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I wouldn't say I know, but I am 95% sure my gut feeling is correct :-) and on that note it's probably best to close the thread.

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