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Old 17th Aug 2002, 01:34
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Short Finals

When listening to STN's Tower frequency I often here '...after landing 737 on short finals...'. My question is what constitutes 'short finals'.

Are you on short finals within a specific time, distance, altitude of the runway threshhold, or is it just a term used to signify the close proximity of the aircraft?
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Re: Short Finals

Short Final normally means someone with 1/2 a mile of the landing thresshold.

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It's not defined in the UK (I seem to recall that 'long final' is more than 4 miles) but for a B737 I would call inside a mile short final. A light single would have to be closer so maybe it's a matter of time to touchdown too.

In the example you give, when telling another pilot about the aircraft, it would have to be clearly visible too.
 
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....and, as an aside, the word is "Final" (singular - no 'S').
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GW,
Sorry, but I have never heard any Pilot call "final"
It's always XXX "finals!
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quite right Chiglet. But GW is correct the call should be final.Perish the thought that we could all get our phraseology wrong
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Wink

Sorry Chiglet....my company uses the correct "Final" without an "s"..... but you're right not many do.
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