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Old 13th Nov 2019, 15:37
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Originally Posted by LookingForAJob View Post
Said it before but still valid - what matters is whether they can manage a unit.

probably quite easy when you have no ATCO,s !
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Old 13th Nov 2019, 16:54
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly View Post
probably quite easy when you have no ATCO,s !
I’m not sure of the relevance of your comment - can you fill in some of the gaps in my knowledge?
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Old 29th Nov 2019, 20:44
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Originally Posted by Mooncrest View Post
I work at Leeds Bradford, although not in ATC, I confess. I can tell you the following which may or may not be helpful. It's an H24 operation, albeit fairly quiet at night from now until late March. Control tower dates back to 1967, last VCR refurbishment was in 2005 with Schmid voice switch. Radar room redesigned and rebuilt (below VCR) about three years ago - very smart ! Plessey Watchman primary radar with modern processing systems. A fair few locally trained ATCOs on the staff, including at least two Watch Managers. I'm not sure if there is a unit manager or SATCO in place at the moment. Also, LBA is on top of a hill so gets whatever weather the Atlantic and the Pennines can throw at it ! On the plus side, the airfield can be sitting in the clear while everywhere else is shrouded in fog.

HTH.
Just seen this, thank you for your insight.
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Old 9th Dec 2019, 18:21
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https://krb-sjobs.brassring.com/TGne...s=1616177_5720
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 15:17
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More jobs at Newcastle apparently..sounds fun up there!
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Old 17th Dec 2019, 16:28
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Nothing on their website as yet... do you know what's coming available?

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Old 18th Dec 2019, 08:01
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Ooooh if I was 10 years younger!!
Before NATS got the contract, we had a controller at Farnborough who resigned from NATS for a job in Gib, (can't remember if it was SERCo or Airwork) then when NATS got the contract, they re-employed him!
NB: Not sure but I think you need a PAR endorsement for APS at Gib.
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Old 18th Dec 2019, 11:06
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Originally Posted by chevvron View Post
Ooooh if I was 10 years younger!!
Before NATS got the contract, we had a controller at Farnborough who resigned from NATS for a job in Gib, (can't remember if it was SERCo or Airwork) then when NATS got the contract, they re-employed him!
NB: Not sure but I think you need a PAR endorsement for APS at Gib.

10 years younger, looking at your age I think you mean 30 years!!
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Old 18th Dec 2019, 13:12
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How many movements a day at GIB? About 10?
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Old 18th Dec 2019, 15:15
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I have always thought of Gib as the Wick of the Mediterranean! Maybe HIAL should look into taking it over. :-)
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Old 18th Dec 2019, 16:33
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Before NATS got the contract, we had a controller at Farnborough who resigned from NATS for a job in Gib, (can't remember if it was SERCo or Airwork) then when NATS got the contract, they re-employed him!
There are people who got chopped during training by NATS ‘cos they were ‘not good enough’ who have ended up back with them at some later date. And I believe not all were happy with that.
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Old 19th Dec 2019, 11:29
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At Farnborough, we often got people who had been 'streamed' to Area Radar (NERL) originally, got chopped and were offered a post in NSL at an aerodrome. Course they only had an ADV/ADI rating so then (when and if they gained a C of C in the tower) they had to be sent on an APS course.
NATS (as far as I know) never 'chopped' a student in recent years (since about 1995) without giving them a second chance, even if it was just to offer them an ATSA post.
Different in the ATCO Cadet days, you never got a second chance; if you had been a assistant prior to getting an ATCO Cadet course, you were usually offered your old job back but if you were direct entry, you were usually chopped completely even if you had got one rating and that's where IAL (nowadays SERCO) and others got a lot of their controllers.
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Old 19th Dec 2019, 15:11
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Originally Posted by chevvron View Post
NATS (as far as I know) never 'chopped' a student in recent years (since about 1995) without giving them a second chance, even if it was just to offer them an ATSA post.
That's out of date and incorrect information.

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Old 19th Dec 2019, 17:22
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Originally Posted by mike current View Post
That's out of date and incorrect information.
Statement from personal experience.
OK you post the correct info then.
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Old 19th Dec 2019, 18:03
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Originally Posted by chevvron View Post
Statement from personal experience.
OK you post the correct info then.
I can think of at least 8 people I know personally that got "chopped" with no second chance or alternative offer. (2008 onwards). Most at college stage but some at unit training too.

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Old 21st Dec 2019, 06:27
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Originally Posted by mike current View Post
I can think of at least 8 people I know personally that got "chopped" with no second chance or alternative offer. (2008 onwards). Most at college stage but some at unit training too.
I also know many. I can’t put an exact number on it but at least two were chopped during college and the week after went up the road to the non NATS college and passed and since validated at units and those chopped from unit training have since validated at non NATS units (ironically some now working at units that used to be operated by NATS), I currently work with at least 4 that this happened to but have known several others.
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Old 21st Dec 2019, 13:49
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Originally Posted by chevvron View Post
Ooooh if I was 10 years younger!!
Before NATS got the contract, we had a controller at Farnborough who resigned from NATS for a job in Gib, (can't remember if it was SERCo or Airwork) then when NATS got the contract, they re-employed him!
NB: Not sure but I think you need a PAR endorsement for APS at Gib.
I can't imagine many people applied... beggars can't be choosers so I don't think they'd turn you down just because of the age.
And no PAR endorsement needed, just SRA.

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How many movements a day at GIB? About 10?
Slightly more than that but yes about right.
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Old 21st Dec 2019, 16:37
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Originally Posted by therocketscientist View Post
no PAR endorsement needed, just SRA
As I don't know / CBA where to look, a serious Q: Is 'SRA' an APS 'bolt-on endorsement' these days?
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Old 21st Dec 2019, 18:37
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Yes - it is a Rating Endorsement
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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 16:39
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Originally Posted by Talkdownman View Post
As I don't know / CBA where to look, a serious Q: Is 'SRA' an APS 'bolt-on endorsement' these days?
Page 2 of your licence lists all the endorsements.
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