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Old 17th Dec 2019, 16:28
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Nothing on their website as yet... do you know what's coming available?

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Old 18th Dec 2019, 08:01
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Ooooh if I was 10 years younger!!
Before NATS got the contract, we had a controller at Farnborough who resigned from NATS for a job in Gib, (can't remember if it was SERCo or Airwork) then when NATS got the contract, they re-employed him!
NB: Not sure but I think you need a PAR endorsement for APS at Gib.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Ooooh if I was 10 years younger!!
Before NATS got the contract, we had a controller at Farnborough who resigned from NATS for a job in Gib, (can't remember if it was SERCo or Airwork) then when NATS got the contract, they re-employed him!
NB: Not sure but I think you need a PAR endorsement for APS at Gib.

10 years younger, looking at your age I think you mean 30 years!!
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How many movements a day at GIB? About 10?
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Old 18th Dec 2019, 15:15
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I have always thought of Gib as the Wick of the Mediterranean! Maybe HIAL should look into taking it over. :-)
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Old 18th Dec 2019, 16:33
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Before NATS got the contract, we had a controller at Farnborough who resigned from NATS for a job in Gib, (can't remember if it was SERCo or Airwork) then when NATS got the contract, they re-employed him!
There are people who got chopped during training by NATS ‘cos they were ‘not good enough’ who have ended up back with them at some later date. And I believe not all were happy with that.
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Old 19th Dec 2019, 11:29
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At Farnborough, we often got people who had been 'streamed' to Area Radar (NERL) originally, got chopped and were offered a post in NSL at an aerodrome. Course they only had an ADV/ADI rating so then (when and if they gained a C of C in the tower) they had to be sent on an APS course.
NATS (as far as I know) never 'chopped' a student in recent years (since about 1995) without giving them a second chance, even if it was just to offer them an ATSA post.
Different in the ATCO Cadet days, you never got a second chance; if you had been a assistant prior to getting an ATCO Cadet course, you were usually offered your old job back but if you were direct entry, you were usually chopped completely even if you had got one rating and that's where IAL (nowadays SERCO) and others got a lot of their controllers.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
NATS (as far as I know) never 'chopped' a student in recent years (since about 1995) without giving them a second chance, even if it was just to offer them an ATSA post.
That's out of date and incorrect information.

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Old 19th Dec 2019, 17:22
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Originally Posted by mike current
That's out of date and incorrect information.
Statement from personal experience.
OK you post the correct info then.
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Old 19th Dec 2019, 18:03
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Statement from personal experience.
OK you post the correct info then.
I can think of at least 8 people I know personally that got "chopped" with no second chance or alternative offer. (2008 onwards). Most at college stage but some at unit training too.

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Originally Posted by mike current
I can think of at least 8 people I know personally that got "chopped" with no second chance or alternative offer. (2008 onwards). Most at college stage but some at unit training too.
I also know many. I can’t put an exact number on it but at least two were chopped during college and the week after went up the road to the non NATS college and passed and since validated at units and those chopped from unit training have since validated at non NATS units (ironically some now working at units that used to be operated by NATS), I currently work with at least 4 that this happened to but have known several others.
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Old 21st Dec 2019, 13:49
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Ooooh if I was 10 years younger!!
Before NATS got the contract, we had a controller at Farnborough who resigned from NATS for a job in Gib, (can't remember if it was SERCo or Airwork) then when NATS got the contract, they re-employed him!
NB: Not sure but I think you need a PAR endorsement for APS at Gib.
I can't imagine many people applied... beggars can't be choosers so I don't think they'd turn you down just because of the age.
And no PAR endorsement needed, just SRA.

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How many movements a day at GIB? About 10?
Slightly more than that but yes about right.
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Old 21st Dec 2019, 16:37
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Originally Posted by therocketscientist
no PAR endorsement needed, just SRA
As I don't know / CBA where to look, a serious Q: Is 'SRA' an APS 'bolt-on endorsement' these days?
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Yes - it is a Rating Endorsement
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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 16:39
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Originally Posted by Talkdownman
As I don't know / CBA where to look, a serious Q: Is 'SRA' an APS 'bolt-on endorsement' these days?
Page 2 of your licence lists all the endorsements.
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CAP 744 page 10 onwards describes all the fun “bolt on’s” ( licence endorsements ) you can add to a Radar rating.

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On a point of order, Serco is written thus - not as SERCO or even SERCo. Though it was better when it was spelled as IAL.

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They were advertising for radar controllers on the airport website but I think it might have closed now. Worth contacting them anyway as I’ve heard they’ve lost 5 ATCOS in the last 6 months with another 3 on top working notice. Not sure that means it’s a great place to go at the moment but if you and they are desperate you never know.

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Nothing on their website as yet... do you know what's coming available?

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Old 27th Dec 2019, 07:49
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Originally Posted by frilsy
They were advertising for radar controllers on the airport website but I think it might have closed now. Worth contacting them anyway as I’ve heard they’ve lost 5 ATCOS in the last 6 months with another 3 on top working notice. Not sure that means it’s a great place to go at the moment but if you and they are desperate you never know.


Who were advertising?
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Think it’s Newcastle..lost a load of atcos and more to go..something not right up there?
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