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LHR 10R SID.

Old 28th Jul 2019, 15:08
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LHR 10R SID.

Help! What was the name of the special SID off 10R for Speedbird 747s going north before Westbound across the 'pond' on hot summer days?

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Old 28th Jul 2019, 16:10
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Think it was called a Polar Departure.
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Old 28th Jul 2019, 18:14
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Originally Posted by hairstreak View Post
Think it was called a Polar Departure.
Correct..!
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Old 28th Jul 2019, 19:14
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Thanks guys _ I knew you would remember Malcy!
This cross-refers with the BA747-136 thread on Aviation History and Nostalgia.
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I seem to recall the Polar SID went 10R-Bromley-Biggin-BPK climbing to 6 because it couldn't make the Kilburn level restriction...?
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Don't wish to be pedantic but I'm pretty sure it was Bromley-Hornchurch-BPK all at 4000ft. Also recall that it could be usd by Japanair for the Anchorage flight and possibly Pan Am to Seattle.
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Originally Posted by hairstreak View Post
Don't wish to be pedantic but I'm pretty sure it was Bromley-Hornchurch-BPK all at 4000ft. Also recall that it could be usd by Japanair for the Anchorage flight and possibly Pan Am to Seattle.
Maybe. I hope that my memory is as good as yours when I get to 71...!
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 10:14
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Wasn't there a 'Polar' departure off 28s as well? Routed via EPM and BPK dated back to the days before 747s and possibly 'binned' when the LTMA was re-configured in '76; I remember it being used in 1970 when I was a radar monitor at the old north side radar unit.
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Originally Posted by Talkdownman View Post
Maybe. I hope that my memory is as good as yours when I get to 71...!
Have you forgotten, you are 71
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 10:22
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I seem to recall the Polar SID went 10R-Bromley-Biggin-BPK climbing to 6 because it couldn't make the Kilburn level restriction...?
I remember the very first one out of Heathrow, a Pan Am one on a 'demo' flight which had arrived early that moring.
It was carrying not a lot or fuel and was about half full of so called VIP passengers.
His first words after departure were 'London I'm not gonna make 4,000 by Woodley'.
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I remember the very first one out of Heathrow, a Pan Am one on a 'demo' flight which had arrived early that moring.
It was carrying not a lot or fuel and was about half full of so called VIP passengers.
His first words after departure were 'London I'm not gonna make 4,000 by Woodley'.
OH No!!! not the World's most experienced airline – having one of it's experiences. Wonder what happened to them.

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Old 30th Jul 2019, 12:49
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hairstreak - you were right. I recall passing that clearance to A PanAm flight once and got "roger" in response. When I asked him a readback the answer was amazing: "Errr roger,Brookchurh Park Hill........." Great days.
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 15:20
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This 72yr old could remember the Alt'4000' bit ( see Aviation History etc ) but not the reporting points. Can't win em' all!

As you say, Bren, Great days!

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Old 31st Jul 2019, 23:32
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Slightly off topic.... did the 5th pod operations just involve negating the 250kts below 10,000 or were there altitude implications as well?
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Slightly off topic.... did the 5th pod operations just involve negating the 250kts below 10,000 or were there altitude implications as well?
Dunno, I ony know I was stuck in Nairobi for 36 hours back in '78 while a replacement engine for our '747 was brought in by 5th pod. This engine lasted 2 hours after departure and we returned to Nairobi again.
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