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Brian 48nav 28th Jul 2019 15:08

LHR 10R SID.
 
Help! What was the name of the special SID off 10R for Speedbird 747s going north before Westbound across the 'pond' on hot summer days?


hairstreak 28th Jul 2019 16:10

Think it was called a Polar Departure.

Talkdownman 28th Jul 2019 18:14


Originally Posted by hairstreak (Post 10530674)
Think it was called a Polar Departure.

Correct..!

Brian 48nav 28th Jul 2019 19:14

Thanks guys _ I knew you would remember Malcy!
This cross-refers with the BA747-136 thread on Aviation History and Nostalgia.

Talkdownman 28th Jul 2019 20:06

I seem to recall the Polar SID went 10R-Bromley-Biggin-BPK climbing to 6 because it couldn't make the Kilburn level restriction...?

hairstreak 29th Jul 2019 08:30

Don't wish to be pedantic but I'm pretty sure it was Bromley-Hornchurch-BPK all at 4000ft. Also recall that it could be usd by Japanair for the Anchorage flight and possibly Pan Am to Seattle.

Talkdownman 30th Jul 2019 07:44


Originally Posted by hairstreak (Post 10531072)
Don't wish to be pedantic but I'm pretty sure it was Bromley-Hornchurch-BPK all at 4000ft. Also recall that it could be usd by Japanair for the Anchorage flight and possibly Pan Am to Seattle.

Maybe. I hope that my memory is as good as yours when I get to 71...!

chevvron 30th Jul 2019 10:14

Wasn't there a 'Polar' departure off 28s as well? Routed via EPM and BPK dated back to the days before 747s and possibly 'binned' when the LTMA was re-configured in '76; I remember it being used in 1970 when I was a radar monitor at the old north side radar unit.

chevvron 30th Jul 2019 10:15


Originally Posted by Talkdownman (Post 10531831)
Maybe. I hope that my memory is as good as yours when I get to 71...!

Have you forgotten, you are 71https://www.pprune.org/images/icons/46.gif

chevvron 30th Jul 2019 10:22


Originally Posted by Talkdownman (Post 10530799)
I seem to recall the Polar SID went 10R-Bromley-Biggin-BPK climbing to 6 because it couldn't make the Kilburn level restriction...?

I remember the very first one out of Heathrow, a Pan Am one on a 'demo' flight which had arrived early that moring.
It was carrying not a lot or fuel and was about half full of so called VIP passengers.
His first words after departure were 'London I'm not gonna make 4,000 by Woodley'.

sealo0 30th Jul 2019 10:36


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 10531948)
I remember the very first one out of Heathrow, a Pan Am one on a 'demo' flight which had arrived early that moring.
It was carrying not a lot or fuel and was about half full of so called VIP passengers.
His first words after departure were 'London I'm not gonna make 4,000 by Woodley'.

OH No!!! not the World's most experienced airline – having one of it's experiences. Wonder what happened to them.

Mike

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 30th Jul 2019 12:49

hairstreak - you were right. I recall passing that clearance to A PanAm flight once and got "roger" in response. When I asked him a readback the answer was amazing: "Errr roger,Brookchurh Park Hill........." Great days.

Brian 48nav 30th Jul 2019 15:20

This 72yr old could remember the Alt'4000' bit ( see Aviation History etc ) but not the reporting points. Can't win em' all!

As you say, Bren, Great days!

BW

ex-EGLL 31st Jul 2019 23:32

Slightly off topic.... did the 5th pod operations just involve negating the 250kts below 10,000 or were there altitude implications as well?

chevvron 1st Aug 2019 05:24


Originally Posted by ex-EGLL (Post 10533522)
Slightly off topic.... did the 5th pod operations just involve negating the 250kts below 10,000 or were there altitude implications as well?

Dunno, I ony know I was stuck in Nairobi for 36 hours back in '78 while a replacement engine for our '747 was brought in by 5th pod. This engine lasted 2 hours after departure and we returned to Nairobi again.


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