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Old 14th Apr 2016, 07:28   #1 (permalink)
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Dubai/Abu Dhabi vacancies

Quite a few vacancies come up recently in UAE at both DXB and AUH.

What's going on? Mass exodus/retirees/redundancies?

Roles from ATCO to specialists.
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Old 20th Apr 2016, 07:49   #2 (permalink)
 
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Expect even more as new heavy handed draconian measures over working hours come into play :-(
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Old 20th Apr 2016, 16:42   #3 (permalink)
 
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Is SERCO still running both operations?
And, does anyone know if they've lifted the 50 and older hiring restrictions?


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Old 21st Apr 2016, 13:19   #4 (permalink)
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See for yourself here:

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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 12:27   #5 (permalink)
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Dubai has its own ANSP now, DANS (Dubai Air Navigation Services), and all the managers work for them. SERCO still provide some contract staff but the intention is to whittle that down.
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Old 23rd Apr 2016, 07:18   #6 (permalink)
 
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Quite a few vacancies come up recently in UAE at both DXB and AUH.

What's going on? Mass exodus/retirees/redundancies?
Increase in traffic together with additional sectors and IPO
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Old 28th Apr 2016, 17:24   #7 (permalink)
 
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Conditions

Does anyone know what the conditions are like? Working hours, leave, wages, pension. Do they provide anything for the kiddies, like schooling. And how do the wages compare with the cost of living?
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Old 29th Apr 2016, 23:04   #8 (permalink)
 
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From what Ive seen it seems to be an offer some of my colleagues might find attractive, especially the younger ones in our company. No housing or schooling allowances, no paid flights home from what I saw, but the regular compensation plus the rate overtime shifts go for suggest its not too shabby. Shifts seem to be 6 on / 4 off, MM-LL-NN, 5-6hrs in the position per day.
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Old 30th Apr 2016, 06:58   #9 (permalink)
 
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No housing or schooling allowances, no paid flights home from what I saw,
That's not correct, at least in terms of Dubai. Housing allowance is paid either in your monthly salary (dans) or as a separate annual payment (Serco). Both employers pay schooling allowance however there are differences. Dans pay business class home once a year, Serco pay economy.

As has already been alluded to though, things are becoming unsettled as a result of recent decisions on working hours. A time to sit back and watch how this plays out.
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Old 10th May 2016, 16:00   #10 (permalink)
 
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GAL ANS recruiting for Abu Dhabi

GAL ANS is currently recruiting both ADC & APS rated ATCOs for roles at the various airports they provide ANS for within the UAE.
Check out the adverts on Flight Global or the GAL website.
Reason for recruitment is additional sectors, increased traffic and the planned introduction of Independent Parallel Ops at OMAA.
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Old 17th May 2016, 12:24   #11 (permalink)
 
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Didn't see anything on Flight Global or the GAL website. It's gal.ae right?
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Old 17th May 2016, 15:55   #12 (permalink)
 
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Closing date was 08 May 2016. I guess for that reason no longer on the respective websites
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Old 19th May 2016, 20:11   #13 (permalink)
 
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PMif u need detailed information
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Old 23rd May 2016, 10:59   #14 (permalink)


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Any information on apc testfor ADC? How is it conducted and what how many days would it take?
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Old 25th Aug 2016, 02:52   #15 (permalink)
 
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Could somebody PM the latest packages for DXB tower?
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Old 25th Aug 2016, 16:37   #16 (permalink)


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Going for APC at GAL (approach radar) in next few weeks and am wondering if anyone is able to shed some light on what that entails also any info on what the compensation package for GAL currently is.
PM me would be great
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Some current information on Dubai, SERCO, Abu, Bahrain and Doha.... Dubai upper mngmt (locals) has their head up....... Lowered hiring maximum age to 45. No pension, not a lot of incentives and yet they want individuals who will come and put 10-20 years in. ATCO's are starting to leave in 2's and 3's because of conditions. Wages are less then some other ME locations but living expenses incredibly high.

SERCO is pretty much a non-player now in Dubai and for a good part of ME. Why, their HR is terrible/horrible in fact, line mngmt not much better and they just haven't kept up with the times.

GAL is Abu and just forget about this location. Bottom of the pay scale, considerably less then other ME locations. They won't pay for you to go for APC's unlike the rest of the local ANS providers and everything is at your own expense for the hiring process. These guys are obviously just trying to take advantage of the desperate ones out there which will eventually backfire on them. Cost of living still very high and their pay/allowances are 20% less then Doha/Bahrain/Dubai for instance. GAL have a little more respect for this profession.

In Bahrain ATCO's seem to be the happiest bunch of the group, renumeration is good and management is cohesive.

That leaves Doha.... 3 days on and one day off (oh ok a sleep day as well that counts as your day off even though you worked till 6am that day). Yes the sleep day is found other places but when its one of four much different then one of two. Promises of raises for some time that have never happened and staffing just crazy. One controller working the unit that a minimum of three would be working in other locations. Perhaps one day someone will come and save us but for now we are just doing what we need to do.

All of these locations have some assets/positive things to offer as well and all of the above may be interpreted in different ways but the facts of them are all true and up to date.
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Hi, I am going to attend APC in Dubai shortly, so could You tell me what to expect?
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That leaves Doha.... 3 days on and one day off
6/4 now
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Some current information on Dubai, SERCO, Abu, Bahrain and Doha.... Dubai upper mngmt (locals) has their head up....... Lowered hiring maximum age to 45. No pension, not a lot of incentives and yet they want individuals who will come and put 10-20 years in. ATCO's are starting to leave in 2's and 3's because of conditions. Wages are less then some other ME locations but living expenses incredibly high.

SERCO is pretty much a non-player now in Dubai and for a good part of ME. Why, their HR is terrible/horrible in fact, line mngmt not much better and they just haven't kept up with the times.

GAL is Abu and just forget about this location. Bottom of the pay scale, considerably less then other ME locations. They won't pay for you to go for APC's unlike the rest of the local ANS providers and everything is at your own expense for the hiring process. These guys are obviously just trying to take advantage of the desperate ones out there which will eventually backfire on them. Cost of living still very high and their pay/allowances are 20% less then Doha/Bahrain/Dubai for instance. GAL have a little more respect for this profession.

In Bahrain ATCO's seem to be the happiest bunch of the group, renumeration is good and management is cohesive.

That leaves Doha.... 3 days on and one day off (oh ok a sleep day as well that counts as your day off even though you worked till 6am that day). Yes the sleep day is found other places but when its one of four much different then one of two. Promises of raises for some time that have never happened and staffing just crazy. One controller working the unit that a minimum of three would be working in other locations. Perhaps one day someone will come and save us but for now we are just doing what we need to do.

All of these locations have some assets/positive things to offer as well and all of the above may be interpreted in different ways but the facts of them are all true and up to date.
How many hours do you guys work on the ME per month on average? I mean all the real hours apart from the roster, adding up extra hours or whatever..

Also, what would be the housing costs in Dubai for instance? (in the past I heard horrible stories about paying like 6 months rent upfront the first day of the lease, but I dont know what is the current outlook). What's the average salary for an approach controller in Dubai one actually gets after deducting all the high costs of living in the ME? (maybe PM better)

Thanks!
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