Employment with HIA - any good?
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Employment with HIA - any good?
Am considering applying to Highlands & Islands up in Scotland as their wages seem reasonable but I don't know much about their other conditions of service although I believe they are in the NATS pension scheme.
I'm a bit wary as they always seem short of ATCOs - what are they like as employers? Any advice/details on HIA terms and conditions, e.g. holidays, pensions, typical rosters, allowances (if any), would be most welcome.
Also seem to remember hearing a rumour that SERCO may be taking over. Any truth?
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COC
I'm a bit wary as they always seem short of ATCOs - what are they like as employers? Any advice/details on HIA terms and conditions, e.g. holidays, pensions, typical rosters, allowances (if any), would be most welcome.
Also seem to remember hearing a rumour that SERCO may be taking over. Any truth?
Cheers
COC
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They are good employers and the ATC / airport managment side is interesting. Government tried to sell them off about 5 years ago and failed. Any attempt to manage the ATC side by SERCO would mean no loss of terms and conditions to staff.
The biggest thing that turns over staff is location. It is a completely different world. You would need to be sure you wanted the lifestyle. Give the towers a ring and speak to the ATCOs.
The biggest thing that turns over staff is location. It is a completely different world. You would need to be sure you wanted the lifestyle. Give the towers a ring and speak to the ATCOs.
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Re comments on HIAL; the Govenment in 1983 tried to sell CAA Scottish Aerodromes, result no serious bidders, government through CAA then set up HIAL as limited company, total shares owned by CAA, board appointed by CAA. Transfer of 'shares' to the Scottish Office ,now the Scottish Executive took place in 1996 , HIAL is now directly answerable to the Scottish Executive/Scottish Parliament.
HIAL is part of the CAA pension scheme as is NATS. HIAL administratively is part of the CAA division of the Pension scheme.
Terms and conditions are similar to other public sector organisations. PROSPECT, formally IPMS negotiates for ATCO grades.Week end & PH payments, MET Obs allowance.
Rosters depend on location . Only KOI/EGPA LSI/EGPB & INV/EGPE presently qualify for shift disturbance at + 12.5% to basic pay.
HIAL is effectively a public service, airline operators increasing want to fly flights early in the morning and well into the evening to/from HIAL airports. This requires more staff. This is the main reason why HIAL needs more ATCOs.
HIAL is part of the CAA pension scheme as is NATS. HIAL administratively is part of the CAA division of the Pension scheme.
Terms and conditions are similar to other public sector organisations. PROSPECT, formally IPMS negotiates for ATCO grades.Week end & PH payments, MET Obs allowance.
Rosters depend on location . Only KOI/EGPA LSI/EGPB & INV/EGPE presently qualify for shift disturbance at + 12.5% to basic pay.
HIAL is effectively a public service, airline operators increasing want to fly flights early in the morning and well into the evening to/from HIAL airports. This requires more staff. This is the main reason why HIAL needs more ATCOs.
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And to add to John's post -
The money is OK, but beware of the posting they offer you, the islands - including Sumburgh and Kirkwall are very quiet, the others even quieter!
You won't get Inverness unless you know something which hangs in either the airport managers or the Manger ATS closets (information available at a price
).
Whatever you do, do not buy a house unless it is in the Inverness area, equally think very carefully about uprooting family. Shetland (Sumburgh or Kirkwall) is not a good family prospect.
Negotiate trips home - at least one per month fully expensed flights etc.
The jobs a piece of cake, quality of life is pretty good, standard of education very good, but you've really got think about what you want to get out of it and whether you'd be happy working at quiet stations for the rest of your career.
If HIA ATC does go to SERCO, although TUPE does cover a lot, it doesn't cover pensions, and the CAA pension fund will not necessarily allow new or existing members to remain in the scheme.
The money is OK, but beware of the posting they offer you, the islands - including Sumburgh and Kirkwall are very quiet, the others even quieter!
You won't get Inverness unless you know something which hangs in either the airport managers or the Manger ATS closets (information available at a price
).Whatever you do, do not buy a house unless it is in the Inverness area, equally think very carefully about uprooting family. Shetland (Sumburgh or Kirkwall) is not a good family prospect.
Negotiate trips home - at least one per month fully expensed flights etc.
The jobs a piece of cake, quality of life is pretty good, standard of education very good, but you've really got think about what you want to get out of it and whether you'd be happy working at quiet stations for the rest of your career.
If HIA ATC does go to SERCO, although TUPE does cover a lot, it doesn't cover pensions, and the CAA pension fund will not necessarily allow new or existing members to remain in the scheme.
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Employment with HIAL
A story in today's (12 June ) Scotsman reports secret,not any more,talks between HIAL and both SERCO and Nats regarding the "privatisation" of ATS in HIAL.Given that there was a meeting between HIAL management and Unions yesterday and nothing was said,draw your own conclusions.
Mick.
Mick.
