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Old 25th Oct 2013, 10:07
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Jersey jobs

Been trawling through all the old threads to see if there's anything regarding pay & conditions at Jersey, given the recent ads but found nothing relevant, anyone have any info?
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 15:51
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Sorry no one else has replied. I retired 6 years ago, so I hope that the following is still relevant.
Top of scale salaries - c 75,000
If you come in from outside you can expect to start on the scale at the equivalent point that you were on outside.
Pension - transferable & subject to a max. of 40 sixtieths of final salary.
CRATCOH hours with some regular day duties.
Annual Leave - approximately 30 days.
Annual days off (not on duty) - approx. 122.
8 people per watch.
Night duties (1900 - 2130; standby 2130 - 0530; 0530 - 0800) - approximately 3 per month.
& very little traffic.
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 18:55
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Thanks for the info Already been in touch and received a similar reply.

Biggest question from here is - given the expense of housing there, does the salary allow for a good quality of life? As a family, we tend to stay at home a lot not dining out a lot, etc.
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 21:26
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75,000 in Jersey doesn't go as far as in UK.
Housing - average cost of a 3 bed semi c430,000.
Cost of living - generally 10 - 15% higher than in UK.
ATCU - getting back to how it used to be; which was" brilliant" - after a grim period under an ex CAA Ops Director & NATS SATCO who were both dire.
Quality of life - generally a lot better than a UK city. Depends what you like though. Outdoor & safe environment. Good place to bring up kids. A little isolated at times. Can be expensive to get off island.
No National health - you have to pay. 40 per visit to doctor.
Good education standards - comparable to upper third of UK standards.
Very good pension.
Income Tax - 20% of taxable salary. You will end up paying approximately 17 - 18 % of your gross salary.
I never regretted coming back after life at LATCC & EGPD. But, you might miss certain aspects of UK life.
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 22:04
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Grass brown everywhere!

Perhaps you should look at the Netherlands for work .... Air Traffic Controllers Threaten to Leave Jobs - NL Times
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Old 26th Oct 2013, 05:02
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Sorry - I definitely won't be considering the Netherlands


Thanks again. One last question - I understand that you can't give me a specific answer but a generalisation is fine.

My wife works as an HR manager and would also be looking to work in Jersey. If I'm not mistaken, the job would provide "licensed" residency, which would allow her to work - is it generally straightforward for incoming licensed personnel's spouses to find work or more likely difficult due to local employment laws? I have read the appropriate pages on the government website but am more interested in how it actually applies in real life! i.e., is it doable?

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Old 26th Oct 2013, 08:16
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I am very wary of giving you a "definitive answer" to your query re. your wife. In the past, jobs in HR have been relatively easy to find, especially as the island tries to catch up with modern practice & legislation & to deal with the demands of the finance industry. Indeed, my daughter has found no problem in finding work (well paid - c50-60,000) in this sector.
However, more recently the recession has bit hard on the finance sector, & there is record unemployment in the island at present (approx. 7%).
Hopefully, we are beginning to pick up now, but the "Golden Days" are unlikely to be seen again any time soon - if ever !
But, if your wife is well qualified, I would hope that she could find something relevant, or even in an unrelated sector. If that happens, she could expect a salary of 25,000 - 40,000. But, don't hold me to it !
A further word of warning; the finance industry has become pretty "cut throat" in the last few years. Continued employment within it cannot be taken for granted, as firms continually seek ways to cut their costs.
Generally, I would say that the job opportunities for well qualified & capable people are greater than in the UK, but maybe not by much !
As regards a "licence"; there is a "check" on incoming job seekers. Whether it takes such a form I do not know. You, as an ATCO, would be here as an essential employee , & unlikely to have any great level of restrictions placed upon you. That is unless things have changed in the last 5 years. As far as I know, the latest "outsiders" did not have a great level of restrictions placed on them (tends to be housing restrictions), & have had no problems purchasing housing. I would expect your wife to be treated much the same.
It would be worth 'phoning ATC & speaking to Lindsay (came here about 5 years ago. I'm sure he could "fill you in".
The fact that you will be a Civil Servant & essentially employed might well help your wife's prospects. The fact that this is a very "local" place with a residue of old fashioned priorities could give her an advantage with any jobs in the Civil Service; especially as they are trying to attract you !
That subject might well be worth mentioning in the interview when they ask you if you have any questions. But, be "diplomatic" if you raise the subject.
I used to be Deputy SATCO & a Watch Manager, & we would have regarded this as a relevant question from any applicants in the interview.
That's about it. Hope it all goes well for you.
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Old 26th Oct 2013, 10:32
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Yet again, thanks for the excellent and thorough reply - I completely understand your reservations in doing so but that is exactly the type if information that I am looking for.

I have already been in touch with the SATCO but now don't expect to hear back until after the weekend.

Cheers again
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Old 1st Nov 2013, 06:46
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Hey Guy D'ageradar,

where in the sandpit are you leaving from if you go to Jersey?

I might go for your job in the sandpit

So I wish you all the best of luck!

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