RT phraseology creeping into everyday conversation
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RT phraseology creeping into everyday conversation
Does anyone else find RT phrases creeping into everyday converstion?
I find myself saying "say again" an awful lot, and never really say pardon anymore.
Affirm and negative also occasionally creep in without thinking.
Worse still is the very rare slip of wilco into normal converstion, usually met with a very confused glare.
I find myself saying "say again" an awful lot, and never really say pardon anymore.
Affirm and negative also occasionally creep in without thinking.
Worse still is the very rare slip of wilco into normal converstion, usually met with a very confused glare.
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Of course it does. You spend up to one third of the day in your job where you use the phraseology. It happens with most jobs. It may be more prevalent in jobs like ATC where it is almost continuous talking compared others where it may be on on a keyboard all day. It's the same as a someone speaking another language. They'll sometimes drop in native words or phrases when speaking English.
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At the drive through yesterday, I made a large-ish order for 4 people. I was waiting for the readback when I realized where I was. I still asked him to read it back anyway.
Not that it made any difference, because in the end, they messed up my order.
Not that it made any difference, because in the end, they messed up my order.
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Back when morse was the main means of radio comms, operators used HI to signify they found something funny, sort of an early version of LOL. FB, meant something was good (fine business).
It's not unusual these days to hear old timers actually say both of those phrases during voice comms, even face to face. It sounds ridiculous to those of us that got their licence after the morse requirement was removed, hearing someone saying "hi hi" instead of laughing.
It's not unusual these days to hear old timers actually say both of those phrases during voice comms, even face to face. It sounds ridiculous to those of us that got their licence after the morse requirement was removed, hearing someone saying "hi hi" instead of laughing.
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Yep.. I am a radio ham as well as (was) an ATCO. Once or twice I said "HI" on the R/T, which was met by silence from the crew! I used to get the odd "73" from pilots who knew me and were also hams.
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I manage not to use it in normal conversations. Where I have found myself dropping in the odd roger or affirm/negative is in official telephone conversations with insurance, dvla, credit card companies etc. I don't know why,but I think it's because I swap my local dialect for my "telephone voice", just like I do at work.
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Ok then, here's a challenge for all of you using the reverse.
Next time you have to phone up for a car insurance quote, spell your name to a bank call centre etc, try using non-standard phonetic alphabet. It is f*cking impossible!
Arthur, Beans, Chav etc.......
Next time you have to phone up for a car insurance quote, spell your name to a bank call centre etc, try using non-standard phonetic alphabet. It is f*cking impossible!
Arthur, Beans, Chav etc.......
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I once had an argument with someone in a call centre about using non-standard phonetics. I was in an obstinate mood, and it amused me.
Call centre: "So your code is Apple Mum Sugar Sixty"
Me: "Do you mean Alpha, Mike, Sierra, Six, Zero?"
"Uh, uuhhh, is that Apple Apple...."
"Let me help you: Alpha, Mike..." Etc
I kept it going for quite sometime before she finally gave up and copied what I was saying.
Call centre: "So your code is Apple Mum Sugar Sixty"
Me: "Do you mean Alpha, Mike, Sierra, Six, Zero?"
"Uh, uuhhh, is that Apple Apple...."
"Let me help you: Alpha, Mike..." Etc
I kept it going for quite sometime before she finally gave up and copied what I was saying.
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Ok then, here's a challenge for all of you using the reverse.
Next time you have to phone up for a car insurance quote, spell your name to a bank call centre etc, try using non-standard phonetic alphabet. It is f*cking impossible!
Arthur, Beans, Chav etc.......
Next time you have to phone up for a car insurance quote, spell your name to a bank call centre etc, try using non-standard phonetic alphabet. It is f*cking impossible!
Arthur, Beans, Chav etc.......
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RTN11...
have you thought about investing in a hearing aid...they are quite neat little devices nowadays! 
I find myself saying "say again" an awful lot,
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It's Mrs. Ditchdigger that is the ATC, but I've found that a simple "Roger" is a very useful tool in some domestic communications.
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Reminds me of the old joke about a controller having an affair with the neighbour's wife ( a banker) ,and that end up in court for a divorce claim:
Judge : Madam, can you confirm that you never had an affair with this gentleman ?
Wife : "Affirm !"
Judge : Madam, can you confirm that you never had an affair with this gentleman ?
Wife : "Affirm !"