VFR Flight Plan
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n dave,
Liverpool to Cardiff could be an interesting flight over some stunning terrain-if you could see it!
If you were flying by day it may be worth a call to Aberporth Radar who can see almost all of your intended flight path on PSR although they are not an H24 unit. They will also help you avoid the new D202 complex that runs east to west across Wales.
Have you tried ringing liverpool or cardiff ATC for a chat and exchange of views?
Good luck with the flight, please PM me if you want any further information. I have some experience of ATC over Wales.
Liverpool to Cardiff could be an interesting flight over some stunning terrain-if you could see it!
If you were flying by day it may be worth a call to Aberporth Radar who can see almost all of your intended flight path on PSR although they are not an H24 unit. They will also help you avoid the new D202 complex that runs east to west across Wales.
Have you tried ringing liverpool or cardiff ATC for a chat and exchange of views?
Good luck with the flight, please PM me if you want any further information. I have some experience of ATC over Wales.
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The issue of filing FPLs for SVFR/IFR at night within the London Control Zone was very often a cause for consternation between the ATSAs in the FBU, the ATCOs in the VCR and the GA pilots in their little planes. Everybody seemed to have a different view on what was, or wasn't, allowed. 
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Certainly has never been required for pilots of helicopters operating or landing in the Heathrow Zone to file a paper flight plan. As it's class A, by night makes no difference in any case.
However, come the Olympics.....all will change.
However, come the Olympics.....all will change.
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Thank you all for excellent Information regarding about FPL and Night x-country.
I did my x-country yesterday night and many thanks to Liverpool ATC, London Info and Cardiff ATC.
Cheers
I did my x-country yesterday night and many thanks to Liverpool ATC, London Info and Cardiff ATC.
Cheers
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File a FPL if you wish but it will be of no real benefit apart from advising your destination of your intended flight. The main concern that I would have is to communicate with ATC en route, in this case London Information.
Talking from my end at "Scottish Info" I quite often get called by aircraft advising they have filed a VFR flight plan but quite often it has not found its way to my sector....but then again I don't really need it, all I need is a call on the radio from you then I can offer as much help as you may require...i.e. pass you en route and destination weather and also pass your details onto the next sector or destination airfield....all this will be done for you irrespective of the fact if you have filed a FPL or not. Please get used to using the Flight Information Service's provided by either London and Scottish...that's what we are here for,and by the way the service is free!!....not often you get any thing for nowt in this world!!!
Talking from my end at "Scottish Info" I quite often get called by aircraft advising they have filed a VFR flight plan but quite often it has not found its way to my sector....but then again I don't really need it, all I need is a call on the radio from you then I can offer as much help as you may require...i.e. pass you en route and destination weather and also pass your details onto the next sector or destination airfield....all this will be done for you irrespective of the fact if you have filed a FPL or not. Please get used to using the Flight Information Service's provided by either London and Scottish...that's what we are here for,and by the way the service is free!!....not often you get any thing for nowt in this world!!!
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fisbangwallop (I'm sure we've spoken on the phone before now) gives good advice of always being in contact with some form of ATS. The other advantage of filing a flight plan is that someone has the supplementary information that might help the SAR people, should they be required.
