Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Ground & Other Ops Forums > ATC Issues
Reload this Page >

Busy Frequency MUAC

Wikiposts
Search
ATC Issues A place where pilots may enter the 'lions den' that is Air Traffic Control in complete safety and find out the answers to all those obscure topics which you always wanted to know the answer to but were afraid to ask.

Busy Frequency MUAC

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 31st May 2011, 21:43
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: belgium
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Busy Frequency MUAC

Hi, looking for a Thomson Pilot who remarked that the frequency was very busy on a sector in Maastricht this afternoon. Just curious!
LJGrus is offline  
Old 31st May 2011, 22:45
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The foot of Mt. Belzoni.
Posts: 2,001
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wx notwithstanding, that would be a failure of ATFM or a shortage of staff then.
ZOOKER is offline  
Old 1st Jun 2011, 11:43
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: NeverLand
Age: 24
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Or just another day at the office? Busiest day at MUAC was at just over 5000 flights in one day. Most of last month we're already at well over 4000 any given day (we have our record this year at 4989...for now).

Happy landings!
andrijander is offline  
Old 9th Jun 2011, 07:51
  #4 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: belgium
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well, it was busy, but more complicated, and the frequency was pretty much unworkable with a lot of background noise and immense amount of readbacks. No WX. Strange things was it was a pilot that felt uncomfortable enough to comment on the situation, not the controller. Never had that before!
LJGrus is offline  
Old 9th Jun 2011, 08:13
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: EHBK
Age: 58
Posts: 315
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I worked the north east corner yesterday (MIC / LBE) and it was busy. Partly due to wx avoidance but not helped by R/T indiscipline. On numerous occasions initial calls were made over already running transmissions. This happened regularly in the space of an hour.On the other hand, there's nothing wrong with a busy frequency, the controller involved should have the big picture and prioritize the communication flow accordingly, ignoring the less pressing exchanges as required. The real butt-clencher is a blocked frequency.

As far as numbers go, we are now handling around 4800 flights a day, as if the downturn never happened.

Edited to say: Zooker, no failures of ATFM or staff shortage involved. All required sectors open and operational. Just busy. It's what we're paid for.

Last edited by Radar; 9th Jun 2011 at 19:44.
Radar is offline  
Old 9th Jun 2011, 18:11
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Enroute to sand.
Posts: 202
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I was also on one of the frequencies and it was very busy.

Anyone else notice lots of callsign clashes in the last few weeks too, really does not help as pilots either answer back calls not for them,or wait, usually results in a mess and doubt!
irishpilot1990 is offline  
Old 9th Jun 2011, 22:34
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: MUAC
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Anyone else notice lots of callsign clashes in the last few weeks too, really does not help as pilots either answer back calls not for them,or wait, usually results in a mess and doubt!
Yesterday I had RYR9068 and RYR6098 in the sector.
Tchocky is offline  
Old 10th Jun 2011, 22:07
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Between a rock and a hard place
Posts: 1,267
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question from a pilot regularly flying in busy airspace, not Europe but in SoCal. In case of an emergency on the frequency that requires close attention, would you send the distress traffic to another frequency (e.g. 121,5) or tell all other traffic to change? Assuming for instance smoke in cockpit (ref. UPS 6) the distress traffic may not be able to make any radio selections at all. Is there any back-up plans for these kinds of situations? Thanks
172_driver is offline  
Old 11th Jun 2011, 19:44
  #9 (permalink)  

More than just an ATCO
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Up someone's nose
Age: 75
Posts: 1,768
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yesterday I had RYR9068 and RYR6098 in the sector.
2 Ryanairs being two too many

172_driver UK legislation is this
Transmissions from aircraft in distress have priority over all other transmissions. On
hearing a distress call, all stations must maintain radio silence on that frequency
unless the distress is cancelled or the distress traffic is terminated; all distress traffic
has been transferred to other frequencies; the station controlling communications
gives permission; it has itself to render assistance. Any station which has knowledge
of distress traffic, and which cannot itself assist the station in distress, shall
nevertheless continue listening to such traffic until it is evident that assistance is
being provided. Stations should take care not to interfere with the transmission of
urgency calls.
which is OK until things get busy. - You wouldn't want to be in busy airspace for long with no R/T contact. If there's a secondary freq on the chart or plate, try that on the Nr.2 box or go back to the last freq. worked and request an alternative frequency
Lon More is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.