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They've been trying to get rid of ATSAs in toto since ah were a lad at LATCC in the early 70s.
It seemed that every time some bright management 'erbert came up with a plan to achieve it, some computerised system or other fell over and it was a quick scrabble to find the ATSAs to keep things moving, put fingers in dykes*, etc.
It seems to have been a gradual attrition, I don't know what the numbers are at Heathrow now but when I left there was much doom and gloom over the projected numbers after the move to the new VCR.
*If Ade's in here somewhere you KNOW what I mean Ade so stop sniggering.
It seemed that every time some bright management 'erbert came up with a plan to achieve it, some computerised system or other fell over and it was a quick scrabble to find the ATSAs to keep things moving, put fingers in dykes*, etc.
It seems to have been a gradual attrition, I don't know what the numbers are at Heathrow now but when I left there was much doom and gloom over the projected numbers after the move to the new VCR.
*If Ade's in here somewhere you KNOW what I mean Ade so stop sniggering.
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Is it true that for every operational ATSA 'shown the door', The Barron has replaced them with a 'business support specialist', 'customer services manager', 'carbon solutions expert' or 'human ********' something or other?
Seems a bit like the NHS. - According to Jeremy Vine last week, 50,000 managers. - Equal to the population of Macclesfield!
"Things Can Only Get better"
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As for 'human ********'s involved in ATCO selection, no wonder validation rates are low.
Seems a bit like the NHS. - According to Jeremy Vine last week, 50,000 managers. - Equal to the population of Macclesfield!
"Things Can Only Get better"
P.S.
As for 'human ********'s involved in ATCO selection, no wonder validation rates are low.
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DC10RM,
This is an internet forum isn't it, or have I missed something? That's what internet forums do, don't they?
Thought the chip might have fallen off the shoulder now you've retired as well
The raison d etre of this concerned father post was lost within five replies as the subject changed...
Thought the chip might have fallen off the shoulder now you've retired as well
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Thought the chip might have fallen off the shoulder now you've retired as well
Job cuts
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Ha - I'll see your pension & raise you an upped retirement age - twice !! 
IMHO the real tragedy with all these cuts is the experience that is being wasted - the ones with the most seem to be the first to go. I can see why, but it bodes ill for the future.
I actually agree with ZOOKER when he said
Get back to the 3 year cadetship - we lost only 3 from the College on my course & none who graduated failed to validate their first posting. OK I know it would cost a lot but how much money goes down the pan when someone with hundreds of hours at a Centre is chopped ?
[Grumpy old git + tumbleweed mode off - GO!]
we would not have been shafted over our pension!
IMHO the real tragedy with all these cuts is the experience that is being wasted - the ones with the most seem to be the first to go. I can see why, but it bodes ill for the future.
I actually agree with ZOOKER when he said
As for 'human ********'s involved in ATCO selection, no wonder validation rates are low.
[Grumpy old git + tumbleweed mode off - GO!]
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Get back to the 3 year cadetship - we lost only 3 from the College on my course & none who graduated failed to validate their first posting. OK I know it would cost a lot but how much money goes down the pan when someone with hundreds of hours at a Centre is chopped ?
And by the way was great to meet another grumpy old bugger last night....will hook up soon for a visit to your own world in the sky!! Take care
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Q. What the similarity between a pilot and an ATCO?
A. If a pilot makes a mistake the pilot dies. If an ATCO makes a mistake the pilot dies.
Q. What the similarity between a pilot and an ATCO?
A. If a pilot makes a mistake the pilot dies. If an ATCO makes a mistake the pilot dies.
