Eurocontrol Testing and Interviews
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From: europe-asia
grid test
Hi guys,
Just a quick question...
When doing the grid test... are the only two measurement values 10(node to node along vertices) and 14(diagnol).
Will we be expected to calculate the diagnol across 2 squares where the diagnol would be 22 ( basically 10^2 + 20^2 = X^2, where X is the diagnol )
Just a quick question...
When doing the grid test... are the only two measurement values 10(node to node along vertices) and 14(diagnol).
Will we be expected to calculate the diagnol across 2 squares where the diagnol would be 22 ( basically 10^2 + 20^2 = X^2, where X is the diagnol )
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From: Romania
Hi everyone. I have a little question and i'd really appreciate any sort of help. Is the DART on feast2 structured exactly as if you choose the 'Run all consecutively' scenario on the preparation program? I mean checkpoint, number of planes in each level and etc?? Thanks in advance
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From: Paris
Stage 1, Timing?
Hello everyone,
I just found that forum and I wen trough most of the comments.
Thank you, in advance.
Since I am going soon to the stage one of the feast test I would like to ask people who already passed it if the can share some light on the issue with the timing especially on the coordinate system?What is the time limit there per question?I went trough wikipedia link of the test and I saw the limit for the spatial orientation but there is nothing about the coordinate system.If you can add something in addition to the English part as what it might contain further than the explanation on wiki.
I apologize if someone wrote about the time and the English but I went through most of the comments and I did not find it.And finally of the people who recently went trough stage one did any of you had to do the strip test? Or it is already replaced by the DART?
Thank you very much
I just found that forum and I wen trough most of the comments.
Thank you, in advance.
Since I am going soon to the stage one of the feast test I would like to ask people who already passed it if the can share some light on the issue with the timing especially on the coordinate system?What is the time limit there per question?I went trough wikipedia link of the test and I saw the limit for the spatial orientation but there is nothing about the coordinate system.If you can add something in addition to the English part as what it might contain further than the explanation on wiki.
I apologize if someone wrote about the time and the English but I went through most of the comments and I did not find it.And finally of the people who recently went trough stage one did any of you had to do the strip test? Or it is already replaced by the DART?
Thank you very much
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From: Paris
The time issue
Hello Everyone,
I am new in he forum and I went trough most of the comments but I did not see anywhere the timing of stage one of the Feast test.I saw the link that you are referring to on wiki and there is information only about the cubes part.I would like to know for the coordinate system what is the time that you need to complete the task. Could you please tell me if the strip test are removed as it is said on wiki and it is replaced from the DART.If you can share some light on the English part as in terms of content? How long is the the whole feast 1 ?
Thank you
I am new in he forum and I went trough most of the comments but I did not see anywhere the timing of stage one of the Feast test.I saw the link that you are referring to on wiki and there is information only about the cubes part.I would like to know for the coordinate system what is the time that you need to complete the task. Could you please tell me if the strip test are removed as it is said on wiki and it is replaced from the DART.If you can share some light on the English part as in terms of content? How long is the the whole feast 1 ?
Thank you
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From: Cyprus
feast I
Hello! I cannot tell you much about the time you have for each test since I do not remember. Feast I takes approx 2 hours to complete. Indeed the strip test is replaced with DART. Now for the English test. You listen to a conversation between 2 people and then required to answer some questions. You will hear dates, numbers, prices, locations, you need to be very concentrated and obviously have a good memory. Then, you hear a sentence, at some point a biiip and then you choose the correct word or phrase that completes this sentence. Again, a sentence and you choose the word that means the same or the opposite word with the word that is highlighted. There's also the reading part. You read a passage, you can go back and read it again if you want, but as soon as you proceed with the questions part, you are not allowed to go back. Generally the English test is demanding and a bit confusing, but you should not worry about time cause you have plenty of it!
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From: Paris
Thank you,
It seems concentration is everything.
It might be a repetitive question but is there any chance the DART test to be on feast 1 or it is always on the second stage? And what is usually the time distance between the two stages?
It seems concentration is everything.
It might be a repetitive question but is there any chance the DART test to be on feast 1 or it is always on the second stage? And what is usually the time distance between the two stages?
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From: DK
In doubt
I passed feast 1 and the second test as well.
No math tasks yet so I am alright, but suddenly it hits me: should I even continue this when I know I suck at math?
Surely there will be some heavy math during the education? I don't want to waste my own time or the company's time.
No math tasks yet so I am alright, but suddenly it hits me: should I even continue this when I know I suck at math?
Surely there will be some heavy math during the education? I don't want to waste my own time or the company's time.
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From: Maastricht
That all depends on whether you are talking about mental arithmetics or full-blown maths.
The first, you will have to be able to do a lot, do it quickly and fairly accurately. The second, you won't need very much.
The first, you will have to be able to do a lot, do it quickly and fairly accurately. The second, you won't need very much.
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From: Derby
Sorry if this has already been asked, but I seem to be finding contrasting information.
To apply, do I need just 5+ GCSE's or do I need A Levels?
Also does anyone have an idea when they are recruiting trainee air traffic controllers again? The website says: "For the coming years there will be no recruitment of student air traffic controllers", however there are posts on here in the recent weeks about attending stages. Is any recruitment near?
To apply, do I need just 5+ GCSE's or do I need A Levels?
Also does anyone have an idea when they are recruiting trainee air traffic controllers again? The website says: "For the coming years there will be no recruitment of student air traffic controllers", however there are posts on here in the recent weeks about attending stages. Is any recruitment near?
Last edited by jbba94; 5th February 2013 at 17:27.
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From: Nowhere
@ Elafrican:
You can do what you want and say what you want - its your life and your opportunity.
You have a group of people on here (both successful and unsuccessful) Eurocontrol trainees trying to offer unbiased and helpful opinion.
If you would like to ignore it, feel free. It will not bother any of us
Lets see if you make it to the other side......
I wager not.
You can do what you want and say what you want - its your life and your opportunity.
You have a group of people on here (both successful and unsuccessful) Eurocontrol trainees trying to offer unbiased and helpful opinion.
If you would like to ignore it, feel free. It will not bother any of us
Lets see if you make it to the other side......
I wager not.
In my opinion there are 2 types of ATCs. Those that are born(like a friend of mine here at courses that has been playing with aircraft simulators since he was a kid) and those the become one(like me, who have to study and practice for this). Point is, you can practice for tests as much as you wish, either you got it or you don't. Heck apparently I got it.
See you on this side and on frequencies or data-link.
Cheers.
More than just an ATCO
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From: Up someone's nose
I have a question, in a few days i'll take feast fase 1 and i don't understand the exercise coordonate system test,
To re-iterate, if you've got what it takes you'll have no real problems with these tests.
Last edited by Lon More; 29th August 2013 at 08:07. Reason: speling
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From: Nowhere
Yes sir, I am OJT ATC. Doing pretty well too.
I still don't approve to the fact that you tell them to not practice. What they practice is still very different to the whole exam, the training and most of all, the real life situation. If someone is not cut out for this, they can practice all they want, they won't pass. People are stubborn, they come here to get an answer, telling them "don't do that, you will fail the training", will only make them to say "yea yea w/e, I'll see when I'm there". Also, training the brain is normal. If only "pure breeds", people that never ever trained their brain, memory, attention worked at EC, well....my guess is that they would have only a handful of them in the whole Europe.
My best training was playing MMoRPGs since 2004, so I got my attention very well formed, plus I have a decent brain and memory, enough for the job I guess.
You don't know if you're qualified until you take the test and wanting to know what's to be expected of you is natural. Even at regular interviews, for like McDonalds, they probably ask you if you know what the company does for a living, so they can tell if you know what you're getting into.
I for one, didn't know that. My aunt(who is an ATCO) told me "take the test, it's a very nice job". That cleared everything for me... and, at least here qualified ATCOs don't really talk about their job to the full extent, since most of it is classified.
Anyway, to end this huge chapter, and I strongly emphasize...
Practicing the test DOES NOT mean you are going to become an ATC or if you do become one by a miracle, survive in this world.
Even at a middle size traffic TWR, the resposability per plane is HUGE, you start dreaming at night scenarios and what not, not for the weak(well can be for the weak if you don't really care about others or you and are just in it for money).
So again, practice, but if you're just stacking bricks without a solid foundation, the building(you) will collapse.
So BeT, since I've become older and wiser, I'd like to apologise if I insulted you in any way, I admit I was a bit angry that you, any of you, told me I will not become ATC because *insert reasons*. I guess you were only trying to help, but as I said, stubbornness kills or helps, depends.
Cheers and I wish you all 0 red screens/mayday's/pans and everything negative.
Have a good day.
I still don't approve to the fact that you tell them to not practice. What they practice is still very different to the whole exam, the training and most of all, the real life situation. If someone is not cut out for this, they can practice all they want, they won't pass. People are stubborn, they come here to get an answer, telling them "don't do that, you will fail the training", will only make them to say "yea yea w/e, I'll see when I'm there". Also, training the brain is normal. If only "pure breeds", people that never ever trained their brain, memory, attention worked at EC, well....my guess is that they would have only a handful of them in the whole Europe.
My best training was playing MMoRPGs since 2004, so I got my attention very well formed, plus I have a decent brain and memory, enough for the job I guess.
You don't know if you're qualified until you take the test and wanting to know what's to be expected of you is natural. Even at regular interviews, for like McDonalds, they probably ask you if you know what the company does for a living, so they can tell if you know what you're getting into.
I for one, didn't know that. My aunt(who is an ATCO) told me "take the test, it's a very nice job". That cleared everything for me... and, at least here qualified ATCOs don't really talk about their job to the full extent, since most of it is classified.
Anyway, to end this huge chapter, and I strongly emphasize...
Practicing the test DOES NOT mean you are going to become an ATC or if you do become one by a miracle, survive in this world.
Even at a middle size traffic TWR, the resposability per plane is HUGE, you start dreaming at night scenarios and what not, not for the weak(well can be for the weak if you don't really care about others or you and are just in it for money).
So again, practice, but if you're just stacking bricks without a solid foundation, the building(you) will collapse.
So BeT, since I've become older and wiser, I'd like to apologise if I insulted you in any way, I admit I was a bit angry that you, any of you, told me I will not become ATC because *insert reasons*. I guess you were only trying to help, but as I said, stubbornness kills or helps, depends.
Cheers and I wish you all 0 red screens/mayday's/pans and everything negative.
Have a good day.
Mr sain
