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My name is Zooker, its aircraft that I spot,
But I know F&%$k all about ATC, not even a jot,
Im jealous of ATCOs and their healthy pay cheque,
But I wouldnt make it, and so Im envious as heck!
So I go on their forum and pretend to belong,
But every post I write is inaccurate, random and wrong.
They all insult me so I fight back pretending to know,
When really I know nothing of where Fidgell is going to go,
But at least I got attention and Fidgell took the time,
Glad he's an ATCO though as he's got no career in ryhme.
So I give my all to be in the group I so desperately desire,
My bedsits looking shabby next to the ATCOs empire,
So its scanner, tissues and hand cream for me, a woman is no go,
And friends would be nice, my life is empty and low,
So ill carry on trying to join in - It must be worth a punt...
Yet they all really know the truth - Im really a useless ( fill in here please )
There's five minutes of my life I wont get back. Maybe this could be the start of a new thread. ATCO meets Pam Ayres....
But I know F&%$k all about ATC, not even a jot,
Im jealous of ATCOs and their healthy pay cheque,
But I wouldnt make it, and so Im envious as heck!
So I go on their forum and pretend to belong,
But every post I write is inaccurate, random and wrong.
They all insult me so I fight back pretending to know,
When really I know nothing of where Fidgell is going to go,
But at least I got attention and Fidgell took the time,
Glad he's an ATCO though as he's got no career in ryhme.
So I give my all to be in the group I so desperately desire,
My bedsits looking shabby next to the ATCOs empire,
So its scanner, tissues and hand cream for me, a woman is no go,
And friends would be nice, my life is empty and low,
So ill carry on trying to join in - It must be worth a punt...
Yet they all really know the truth - Im really a useless ( fill in here please )
There's five minutes of my life I wont get back. Maybe this could be the start of a new thread. ATCO meets Pam Ayres....
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I would stay away from Paisley as well... I study there and it's not the nicest of places. Very little to do as well, Braehead shopping centre stole most of it's business.
If it were me, I would probably move to somewhere like Glasgow. Glasgow's new houses and apartments are really nice, expensive but nice. There is also East Kilbride that's only 30mins down the road on the M77 as well.
For gliding, Strathaven no longer do gliding. Only microlights and some light aircraft .
If it were me, I would probably move to somewhere like Glasgow. Glasgow's new houses and apartments are really nice, expensive but nice. There is also East Kilbride that's only 30mins down the road on the M77 as well.
For gliding, Strathaven no longer do gliding. Only microlights and some light aircraft .
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Fidgell,
On further examination, I notice a lack of stanzas in your work, in fact, it resembles a set of lyrics by the 1970's progressive rock group 'YES'.
Are you "Close To The Edge", Fidgell?
You will be when you're living on the Ayrshire Riviera
On further examination, I notice a lack of stanzas in your work, in fact, it resembles a set of lyrics by the 1970's progressive rock group 'YES'.
Are you "Close To The Edge", Fidgell?
You will be when you're living on the Ayrshire Riviera
...And after 6 pints of 70 shilling, he will be "Fragile", unless he is sick in the "Topographic Ocean"
I did a year at ScATCC, back in the early 80s....364 days too long!
But I do agree with an earlier post, if I was having to live anywhere up there, I would plump for Troon......-
I did a year at ScATCC, back in the early 80s....364 days too long!
But I do agree with an earlier post, if I was having to live anywhere up there, I would plump for Troon......-
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Of course another major tourist attraction of the Ayrshire Riviera is Hunterston B, 19 miles up the coast 
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Another 'Glow-In-The-Dark' deep-fried Mars Bar please
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.Another 'Glow-In-The-Dark' deep-fried Mars Bar please
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Ayrshire
Now that you have all got that out of your system and slagged off Ayrshire, I wish to say a different word.
The area suffers badly from social deprivation, as does much of a lot of Scotland. The traditional industries have gone, and the new wonder jobs and industries that were to come in and replace them stayed only as long as the government subsidies lasted. . . . Prestwick Circuits, Hyster, Volvo, Stonefield Truck, Hewlett Packard, etc etc
I worked with a good number of Ayrshire men who had worked in the regional division of British Aerospace at Prestwick – every one of them was the salt of the earth.
When you read the Ayrshire Post on a Thursday, there is a full page of Masonic Notices. There is only half a page of church notices!
The area suffers badly from social deprivation, as does much of a lot of Scotland. The traditional industries have gone, and the new wonder jobs and industries that were to come in and replace them stayed only as long as the government subsidies lasted. . . . Prestwick Circuits, Hyster, Volvo, Stonefield Truck, Hewlett Packard, etc etc
I worked with a good number of Ayrshire men who had worked in the regional division of British Aerospace at Prestwick – every one of them was the salt of the earth.
When you read the Ayrshire Post on a Thursday, there is a full page of Masonic Notices. There is only half a page of church notices!
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Manchester: home to the poorest children in Britain
2006-07 Crime figures
Violent crime (per 1,000 of population)
National average: 16.7
Manchester: 32.7
Robbery
National average: 1.2
Manchester: 8.3
Vehicle theft
National average: 2.9
Manchester: 8.9
Burglary
National average: 4.3
Manchester: 16.5
I can see why you're all worried about leaving....
2006-07 Crime figures
Violent crime (per 1,000 of population)
National average: 16.7
Manchester: 32.7
Robbery
National average: 1.2
Manchester: 8.3
Vehicle theft
National average: 2.9
Manchester: 8.9
Burglary
National average: 4.3
Manchester: 16.5
I can see why you're all worried about leaving....
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15 mins out of Ayr is Coylton. Nice little town(and getting a rail link) new houses and a bookies!!!!! Feel free to PM..........................Nice 4 bed exec for sale!!!!!!!!
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Me Me Me Me
What are the similar statistics for Ayrshire?
What are the similar statistics for Ayrshire?
Point is people from Ayrshire aren't stomping around like a herd of Kevin & Perry's mumping about having to fulfill their contractual obligations of moving from what is made out to be Heaven on Earth to the scary, barren wastelands of the north, encountering roaming bands of brigands and the odd wooly mammoth.
It's a remarkably perochial and blinkered attitude... Which'll fit right in!
Edit: This may actually be of interest...
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2006-07 Crime figures
Violent crime (per 1,000 of population)
National average: 16.7
Manchester: 32.7
South ayrshire: 2.34
Robbery
National average: 1.2
Manchester: 8.3
South Ayrshire: 0.39
Vehicle theft
National average: 2.9
Manchester: 8.9
South Ayrshire: 1.56 theft of vehicle
1.59 theft from vehicle
Burglary
National average: 4.3
Manchester: 16.5
South ayrshire : 4.92
figures are taken from crimes per 10000 people ,so have divided my figures by 10 to produce amount per 1000 people. not sure if this is creative accounting and am willing to be corrected
hope this helps
Violent crime (per 1,000 of population)
National average: 16.7
Manchester: 32.7
South ayrshire: 2.34
Robbery
National average: 1.2
Manchester: 8.3
South Ayrshire: 0.39
Vehicle theft
National average: 2.9
Manchester: 8.9
South Ayrshire: 1.56 theft of vehicle
1.59 theft from vehicle
Burglary
National average: 4.3
Manchester: 16.5
South ayrshire : 4.92
figures are taken from crimes per 10000 people ,so have divided my figures by 10 to produce amount per 1000 people. not sure if this is creative accounting and am willing to be corrected
hope this helps
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comparing like with like
Ahhh, but if you read the Manchester Evenng News, and make a direct comparison with the Ayrshire Post, how many columns of Masonic Notices and Church Notices are there?Obviously the reason for significantly higher crime figures in the Manchester area is due to a complete lack of Masons in Manchester
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If we have to do a crime tit for tat list, then surely fair to do Glasgow vs Manchester?
Not sure what everyone's moaning about, it'll be wicked up there, loads of opportunities for wives and kids too, great motorway and dual carriageway connections in all directions. Yep, as someone has already said, a class above West Drayton and Manchester, which were nowhere near excellent transport links enabling you to live many miles from work and work in almost any industry.
Loads of fantastic towns and villages with nice friendly centres, and not once have I been warned to not live too rurally or the locals out that way will not take kindly to outsiders. Pass the banjo please.
Not sure what everyone's moaning about, it'll be wicked up there, loads of opportunities for wives and kids too, great motorway and dual carriageway connections in all directions. Yep, as someone has already said, a class above West Drayton and Manchester, which were nowhere near excellent transport links enabling you to live many miles from work and work in almost any industry.
Loads of fantastic towns and villages with nice friendly centres, and not once have I been warned to not live too rurally or the locals out that way will not take kindly to outsiders. Pass the banjo please.
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totally diasagree - not many people will live in Glasgow and commute - the comparison of crime figures should be for likely place of residence at moment compared to likely place of residence after the move.
I agree Manchester V Glasgow is a fairer comparison if you are trying like for like, but that's not the issue here - the issue is people claiming Scotland is ridden with criminals, inferring that living in Ayrshire will be worse than in Manchester, from purely a crime statistic point of view
totally diasagree - not many people will live in Glasgow and commute - the comparison of crime figures should be for likely place of residence at moment compared to likely place of residence after the move.
I agree Manchester V Glasgow is a fairer comparison if you are trying like for like, but that's not the issue here - the issue is people claiming Scotland is ridden with criminals, inferring that living in Ayrshire will be worse than in Manchester, from purely a crime statistic point of view
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If I were from Ayrshire I'd be more concerned about finding out what % of the Manchester population were ATCOs, in order to calculate the likelyhood of those high crime rates being directly attributable to the invaders from the south 
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Monkey,
When you get up there you can join the Masons! I'm sure you can take your banjo along.
McFidgell will already be a member, in fact I believe He'll be running the poetry class, (Thursdays 7-30).
When you get up there you can join the Masons! I'm sure you can take your banjo along
.McFidgell will already be a member, in fact I believe He'll be running the poetry class, (Thursdays 7-30)
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