Airservices Australia Psychometric Testing
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From: Gafa
No harm telling HR when your earliest start date is and letting them work it out, as has been alluded to - they really can’t afford to be picky with this right now.
Joined: Jun 2019
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From: Brisbane
Hey mate.
The message system for this seems bugged, tried to reply to your PM but said i was out of memory, not sure of what to expect for the interview, i think its just answering pre-recorded questions, time will tell. Looking to do en route and head to Brisbane, actually looking to hopefully defer the offer if successful at this stage, not sure if thats a thing at all or whether they keep your scores in the system for a while or not.
The message system for this seems bugged, tried to reply to your PM but said i was out of memory, not sure of what to expect for the interview, i think its just answering pre-recorded questions, time will tell. Looking to do en route and head to Brisbane, actually looking to hopefully defer the offer if successful at this stage, not sure if thats a thing at all or whether they keep your scores in the system for a while or not.
Hey man, ah okay. Yea not sure about the message system. I've heard that problem come up from a few others as well.
Best of luck with the interview! On indeed there are a few common questions asked by airservices on there. Normal stuff really, I've just never done the recorded type of interview before.
Let us know how you go!
Joined: Jun 2019
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From: Brisbane
Hey prodigal,
Sent you a PM as well. I did my interview on Friday morning and was a bit nervous myself, having never done a recorded interview before. Was a little weird talking to a machine. Anyway, I have no idea how long before we hear back.
I am trying to not let the uncertainty consume me, so grateful that I'm snowed under with work. Still checking my messages every couple hours just in case.
Wondering if the next contact will be a phone call, or the usual text telling you to log into the system?
Struggler 2 DavidBall1884 Allyjay you guys have any answers to these?
Sent you a PM as well. I did my interview on Friday morning and was a bit nervous myself, having never done a recorded interview before. Was a little weird talking to a machine. Anyway, I have no idea how long before we hear back.
I am trying to not let the uncertainty consume me, so grateful that I'm snowed under with work. Still checking my messages every couple hours just in case.
Wondering if the next contact will be a phone call, or the usual text telling you to log into the system?
Struggler 2 DavidBall1884 Allyjay you guys have any answers to these?
Joined: Dec 2021
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From: New South Wales
Judging by a few replies in Septemeber about a week after the closing of the online interviews, which i believe was Tuesday, you get an email inviting you to a virtual assessment centre via teams. They may have re-opened the assessment day where you need to go to Brisbane or whatever, so an invite to the online virtual assessment day or in-person Assessment day is on the way for successful applicants soon.
Joined: Jan 2022
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From: Victoria
Assessment Centre (Virtual)
Hi everyone!
I applied for the trainee position in early October last year and passed online tests and video interview.
Now I'm waiting for early February Virtual assessment centre tests.
Has anyone got an e-mail about this will be held? I'm still waiting for it. Previous e-mail says someone will call me as well.
Really nervous about the exam tho.. Fingers crossed for me and everyone who is currently taking it and waiting for their result!!
p.s Does anyone has tips for virtual assessment centre exam or how to prepare it?
Thanks guys!!
I applied for the trainee position in early October last year and passed online tests and video interview.
Now I'm waiting for early February Virtual assessment centre tests.
Has anyone got an e-mail about this will be held? I'm still waiting for it. Previous e-mail says someone will call me as well.
Really nervous about the exam tho.. Fingers crossed for me and everyone who is currently taking it and waiting for their result!!
p.s Does anyone has tips for virtual assessment centre exam or how to prepare it?
Thanks guys!!
Joined: Jun 2019
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From: Brisbane
Hi all,
JimS prodigal I emailed ASA a few days ago to ask about timelines and what steps remain. I was told that for our group (mid November application), we will have the results of our online interviews by the end of this week (i.e. tomorrow 21st Jan). She said to expect an invite to the virtual assessment centre after that if successful, which I suspect may be the same one in Feb you refer to. She told me that the virtual assessment cente will comprise of a group activity, an interview again with 2 assessors, and re-doing the online tests we've already done to confirm skills.
So I guess its still just waiting for news for our group, happy for you that you already have your good news!
What stream did you express interest in and where have you stated you'd like to be based?
JimS prodigal I emailed ASA a few days ago to ask about timelines and what steps remain. I was told that for our group (mid November application), we will have the results of our online interviews by the end of this week (i.e. tomorrow 21st Jan). She said to expect an invite to the virtual assessment centre after that if successful, which I suspect may be the same one in Feb you refer to. She told me that the virtual assessment cente will comprise of a group activity, an interview again with 2 assessors, and re-doing the online tests we've already done to confirm skills.
So I guess its still just waiting for news for our group, happy for you that you already have your good news!
What stream did you express interest in and where have you stated you'd like to be based?
Joined: Jan 2022
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From: Victoria
Has anyone ever had issues getting the class 3 medical certificate? If so, what issues did you encounter and how did you fix it. Most commonly ive heard issues of delays. is there anything else?
cheers
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Joined: Jun 2019
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From: Brisbane
Hey all,
Just to let you guys know, I received an email saying that I have been successful with the online interview, and have been placed in a pool from which they draw applicants as the need arises. Next step would be invitation to attend a virtual assessment centre, but no indication was given as to when this could happen.
So good news all round! But now we need to get on with whatever we do I suppose until we hear something back from them.
Good luck and hope to see you guys soon!
Just to let you guys know, I received an email saying that I have been successful with the online interview, and have been placed in a pool from which they draw applicants as the need arises. Next step would be invitation to attend a virtual assessment centre, but no indication was given as to when this could happen.
So good news all round! But now we need to get on with whatever we do I suppose until we hear something back from them.
Good luck and hope to see you guys soon!
Joined: Jan 2022
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From: Melbourne
Assessment Centre Invite
Hi all,
I also just got an email suggesting their interview maybe conducted face to face instead of holding it virtually. They haven’t set the date yet but I’m guessing it will be late Feb / early March according to their previous email.
Now I’m just wondering if we do make it through the recruitment process, when will we be able to start our training? Any ideas?
I also just got an email suggesting their interview maybe conducted face to face instead of holding it virtually. They haven’t set the date yet but I’m guessing it will be late Feb / early March according to their previous email.
Now I’m just wondering if we do make it through the recruitment process, when will we be able to start our training? Any ideas?
Joined: Dec 2021
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From: New South Wales
Concerns about the work environment
Hey guys.
I'm growing slightly concerned about the glassdoor reviews from current employees, many are saying the business is extremely poorly run, its not a caring environment, management sucks, senior execs dont know whats going on, unforgiving restructure and changes etc... - examples 1. "Poor safety culture, Poor people culture, No recognition of good work". 2. " Leadership…. HA! What leadership? These “leaders” couldn’t lead themselves down a waterslide even if you pushed them at the top. Advice to Management. I would rather have my arms and legs eaten off by rabies infested lions than ever be within 100km’s of your rotten faces. Hope all of you quit, or even better, get done over in court." 3. "Poor management. Corrupt leadership. Bullying from everyone". Only 22% would recommend the place to a friend and only 9% approval of the CEO
Can someone who works there potentially shine some light on all the negativity online, is it really such a bad place to work??? i'm becoming slightly concerned as i said
I'm growing slightly concerned about the glassdoor reviews from current employees, many are saying the business is extremely poorly run, its not a caring environment, management sucks, senior execs dont know whats going on, unforgiving restructure and changes etc... - examples 1. "Poor safety culture, Poor people culture, No recognition of good work". 2. " Leadership…. HA! What leadership? These “leaders” couldn’t lead themselves down a waterslide even if you pushed them at the top. Advice to Management. I would rather have my arms and legs eaten off by rabies infested lions than ever be within 100km’s of your rotten faces. Hope all of you quit, or even better, get done over in court." 3. "Poor management. Corrupt leadership. Bullying from everyone". Only 22% would recommend the place to a friend and only 9% approval of the CEO
Can someone who works there potentially shine some light on all the negativity online, is it really such a bad place to work??? i'm becoming slightly concerned as i said
Joined: May 2015
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From: NSW
Hey guys.
I'm growing slightly concerned about the glassdoor reviews from current employees, many are saying the business is extremely poorly run, its not a caring environment, management sucks, senior execs dont know whats going on, unforgiving restructure and changes etc... - examples 1. "Poor safety culture, Poor people culture, No recognition of good work". 2. " Leadership…. HA! What leadership? These “leaders” couldn’t lead themselves down a waterslide even if you pushed them at the top. Advice to Management. I would rather have my arms and legs eaten off by rabies infested lions than ever be within 100km’s of your rotten faces. Hope all of you quit, or even better, get done over in court." 3. "Poor management. Corrupt leadership. Bullying from everyone". Only 22% would recommend the place to a friend and only 9% approval of the CEO
Can someone who works there potentially shine some light on all the negativity online, is it really such a bad place to work??? i'm becoming slightly concerned as i said
I'm growing slightly concerned about the glassdoor reviews from current employees, many are saying the business is extremely poorly run, its not a caring environment, management sucks, senior execs dont know whats going on, unforgiving restructure and changes etc... - examples 1. "Poor safety culture, Poor people culture, No recognition of good work". 2. " Leadership…. HA! What leadership? These “leaders” couldn’t lead themselves down a waterslide even if you pushed them at the top. Advice to Management. I would rather have my arms and legs eaten off by rabies infested lions than ever be within 100km’s of your rotten faces. Hope all of you quit, or even better, get done over in court." 3. "Poor management. Corrupt leadership. Bullying from everyone". Only 22% would recommend the place to a friend and only 9% approval of the CEO
Can someone who works there potentially shine some light on all the negativity online, is it really such a bad place to work??? i'm becoming slightly concerned as i said
Think old school RAAF morphed with Lord of the Flies. Start by forming an all male government department managed by old school RAAF, turn it into an exclusive private entity then add very well paid. Allow it to self manage. Immaturity and butt kissing is prevalent.
Poor behaviour has been rife forever. The treatment of women when they started in ATC has been a long term stain. Any variation from the “norm” makes you susceptible.
Following internal and external (read federal legislation and laws) policies is definitely not a priority for management at the academy or in the towers/centres and HR. A good coverup and circling of the wagons solves that.
ASA is not accountable to anyone and it shows.
If you get in, trust no one and watch your back. Don’t be quiet or outspoken. Don’t mention any issues or “weaknesses”. The grapevine is strong, hungry and extremely active. Your entire career can be destroyed because of something you wear, say or do.
Poor behaviour and actions by management are denied, protected and hidden through over 6 levels of management. You at the bottom are expendable as they close ranks to protect what they have. Incestuous is a word that comes to mind with how it’s run and who gets each role.
Don’t expect Civil Air to put you ahead of management when it comes to the crunch. Your poor ass will be traded for some larger deal being negotiated.
I could list endless breaches of workplace practices across dozens of areas today and still think of more tomorrow.
It’s a real pity as it’s a great job in an amazing field.
Too many brilliant and nice folk get destroyed without justification. Thrown under the bus daily.
No bitterness or anger here, just honesty.
I’d go as far as saying that the social schoolyard level skills required to achieve a successful and rewarding career honestly and morally are far in excess of the academic and intellectual requirements to get in.
Dishonest heartless grubs thrive.
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From: Gafa
Yea the organisation has a long way to go when it comes to women/inclusivity in general for ATC/firefighters, but it’s making (slow) progress. If you do a few quick google searches there are plenty of recent articles floating around from the last few years that will show you why many get disenfranchised and rightly so. That doesn’t mean you can’t sign up, dip your toes in the water and hang on for the ride if you’re having fun - then join all the other controllers a few years later in bitching about the frankly bizarre scenarios that management continuously find themselves in.
If you’re someone with an easy going personality who loves the idea of controlling airplanes I’d say it’s worth a go, if you’re someone with grand ambitions about climbing a (non-existent in AsA) ladder and making your mark in the workplace then you should probably get into finance.
Joined: May 2012
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From: YMML
I’d agree with all of the above.
Think old school RAAF morphed with Lord of the Flies. Start by forming an all male government department managed by old school RAAF, turn it into an exclusive private entity then add very well paid. Allow it to self manage. Immaturity and butt kissing is prevalent.
Poor behaviour has been rife forever. The treatment of women when they started in ATC has been a long term stain. Any variation from the “norm” makes you susceptible.
Following internal and external (read federal legislation and laws) policies is definitely not a priority for management at the academy or in the towers/centres and HR. A good coverup and circling of the wagons solves that.
ASA is not accountable to anyone and it shows.
If you get in, trust no one and watch your back. Don’t be quiet or outspoken. Don’t mention any issues or “weaknesses”. The grapevine is strong, hungry and extremely active. Your entire career can be destroyed because of something you wear, say or do.
Poor behaviour and actions by management are denied, protected and hidden through over 6 levels of management. You at the bottom are expendable as they close ranks to protect what they have. Incestuous is a word that comes to mind with how it’s run and who gets each role.
Don’t expect Civil Air to put you ahead of management when it comes to the crunch. Your poor ass will be traded for some larger deal being negotiated.
I could list endless breaches of workplace practices across dozens of areas today and still think of more tomorrow.
It’s a real pity as it’s a great job in an amazing field.
Too many brilliant and nice folk get destroyed without justification. Thrown under the bus daily.
No bitterness or anger here, just honesty.
I’d go as far as saying that the social schoolyard level skills required to achieve a successful and rewarding career honestly and morally are far in excess of the academic and intellectual requirements to get in.
Dishonest heartless grubs thrive.
Think old school RAAF morphed with Lord of the Flies. Start by forming an all male government department managed by old school RAAF, turn it into an exclusive private entity then add very well paid. Allow it to self manage. Immaturity and butt kissing is prevalent.
Poor behaviour has been rife forever. The treatment of women when they started in ATC has been a long term stain. Any variation from the “norm” makes you susceptible.
Following internal and external (read federal legislation and laws) policies is definitely not a priority for management at the academy or in the towers/centres and HR. A good coverup and circling of the wagons solves that.
ASA is not accountable to anyone and it shows.
If you get in, trust no one and watch your back. Don’t be quiet or outspoken. Don’t mention any issues or “weaknesses”. The grapevine is strong, hungry and extremely active. Your entire career can be destroyed because of something you wear, say or do.
Poor behaviour and actions by management are denied, protected and hidden through over 6 levels of management. You at the bottom are expendable as they close ranks to protect what they have. Incestuous is a word that comes to mind with how it’s run and who gets each role.
Don’t expect Civil Air to put you ahead of management when it comes to the crunch. Your poor ass will be traded for some larger deal being negotiated.
I could list endless breaches of workplace practices across dozens of areas today and still think of more tomorrow.
It’s a real pity as it’s a great job in an amazing field.
Too many brilliant and nice folk get destroyed without justification. Thrown under the bus daily.
No bitterness or anger here, just honesty.
I’d go as far as saying that the social schoolyard level skills required to achieve a successful and rewarding career honestly and morally are far in excess of the academic and intellectual requirements to get in.
Dishonest heartless grubs thrive.
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 33
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From: Brisbane
So I got my call last week to attend the assessment centre on the morning of the 6th of April. Fingers crossed all goes well. Looks like its a 4 hour session.
Hey A_Y I still cant message you mate.
Good luck to all doing assessment centres with me!
Hey A_Y I still cant message you mate.
Good luck to all doing assessment centres with me!
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 2
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From: Brisbane
Hi everyone,
sat initial onine testing last week.
Recieved 3 emails for a further 7 online assesments.
I Understand i cant relly study or prepare but was wondering if anyone had any advice on the 25min "Radar Simulation" test.
Thanks in advance
sat initial onine testing last week.
Recieved 3 emails for a further 7 online assesments.
I Understand i cant relly study or prepare but was wondering if anyone had any advice on the 25min "Radar Simulation" test.
Thanks in advance
Joined: Feb 2015
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From: oxford
Psychometric test at interview
I went to do my interview at a large training outfit in the UK 20 years ago or so as a would be commercial instructor. Initial interview was with non-flying HR chap, with a further interview with the CFI afterwards. Correctly surmised the latter interview was the more important. Given a psychometric test to finish the HR interview. Collecting my paper, the HR enquired "did you have any problems answering?", which in the circumstances seemed to invite a flippant reply, so stated "no" whilst giving the most extreme "nervous tick". The HR chap couldn't take a joke and grassed me up to the CFI, who could barely conceal his mirth. Got the job on the spot!
Later discovered that a good sense of humour was most necessary.
Later discovered that a good sense of humour was most necessary.
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 3
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From: Sydney
Salary and Training Location
Hi everyone, I am new in the chat, and I would like to have some help as I am in the process but so far I don’t have an idea:
How much will be the salary during training and after training?
It is a training centre in NSW?
If I have to relocate for training will I be posted back to my city?
Will they pay for relocation?
Sorry for so many questions but it’s worrying me a bit this situation as this is my dream job ever not matter people said about it.
Thanks I will appreciate it if someone can answer my questions.
How much will be the salary during training and after training?
It is a training centre in NSW?
If I have to relocate for training will I be posted back to my city?
Will they pay for relocation?
Sorry for so many questions but it’s worrying me a bit this situation as this is my dream job ever not matter people said about it.
Thanks I will appreciate it if someone can answer my questions.